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President Donald Trump mocked transgender people in front of Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, whose child identifies as nonbinary, during an Oval Office meeting in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday that was intended to focus on trade relations but instead became a showcase of Trump’s familiar culture war politics.

The meeting, held in the presence of reporters, aimed to emphasize renewed cooperation between the two countries, which remain deeply economically intertwined. But as The Independent reported, it “devolved into a political rally disguised as a routine press availability.” Trump repeatedly veered off topic to attack Democrats, the media, and transgender people, boasting that under his leadership, “We have strong borders. We have no men in women’s sports. We’re not going to take your child away and change the sex of your child.”

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[-] Ashenlux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

Hey, maybe this will cause him to recognize that the US is no longer safe for LGBTQ people. Which could then help open up a pathway for queer people, especially trans and non binary people, to escape before they start rounding us up.

Wishful thinking, I know, but this bitch needs to try and remain hopeful somehow.

[-] Amuletta@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 days ago

The people criticizing Carney for not arguing with Trump have obviously never had the experience of arguing with a dementia ridden relative.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 87 points 3 days ago

I'm just surprised that people think Carney, our prime minister, should antagonize Trump, who is currently master and chief of one of the largest, if not the largest military force in the world, over his stance on trans people. And to do it when he's there for trade talks.

I'm just surprised that people think that Carney sitting there and refusing to engage in Trump's bullshit, when the purpose of his visit is to negotiate trade on behalf of our entire country.

I'm not sure why anyone thinks Carney's priority should be arguing with Trump over trans people, when we currently have a trade war going on, that can easily devolve into an actual war....

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah I want our allies to stand up as much as the next trans person but I don't envy Carney.

Our mission right now is to survive, I won't be sad if Carney doesn't want to start WWIII over us.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 days ago

You're 100% right and I agree with you wholeheartedly but there is a part of me that wishes out of moral principles someone public chastised him on this bullshit. He needs a dressing down on national television regardless of the consequences.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 days ago

Oh, I agree, but unfortunately I think I know how that will go.

He'll continue to spout his bullshit and shit talk whomever gave him the dressing down, whenever he is put in front of a camera for at least a few weeks afterwards, probably calling whatever country they're from a shithole, his supporters will buy it up and nothing will change.

If that was done by Carney, it would just politically burn any credibility in trade negotiations, and put Canada under the gun for further punitive tariffs.

I really really want to see someone call him out too, but I also understand why Carney wouldn't.

He has to be as focused on the topic at hand and stay away from any side tracked conversation, as much as he can; he's representing so many Canadian interests and companies that he can't take the risk. I wouldn't want him to take on that risk.

I can shit talk America's tariffs all day long, and call Taco any manner of names, but at the end of the day, the (almost entirely) free trade that Canada and the USA had before now was always beneficial for both countries, and getting back to that point would be beneficial for everyone.

We sell a lot of material to US companies, and so they make up a nontrivial amount of the GDP. We're working really hard right now to change that, but it's still the reality of the situation.

Personally, I'm rooting for international trade with allies that are not the USA. That's what I want to see. As much as I feel bad for our American neighbors who don't support drumph, it's up to them to rally together and fix this crap. I support them in their efforts, but more diversified international trade is only going to benefit Canada.

[-] Routhinator@startrek.website 27 points 3 days ago

I'm not sure why he's wasting time on that orange turd. He should be getting the rebuild of our lost industries going and telling the americans to GTFO and eat dirt at this point. Stengthen ties with EU and Mexico now.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 days ago

I'm aware that the feds have been working on more international trade with our allies in Asia/Europe/anywhere that isn't the USA....

I was commenting the other day to my SO that most products don't even need to be "made in Canada" for me to want to buy them, they just need to say "not a product of the USA" and I'll consider it a viable option to buy.

Anything made in the USA, I try to avoid or find non-US made alternatives.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

The hardest thing for me is to get rid of Yankee shit is digital services eg Microsoft (use it for work) & google. My next phone will be a nothing or a fair phone.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

I agree that Microsoft and Google are difficult to get rid of.

I haven't yet decided what I'm going to do in this regard. Good luck friend.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

There’s alternatives, protonmail, NorthMail, lots of non-google search engines, I need to find an alternative to google drive.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

I'm very aware of the email alternatives.

My problem isn't with email, it's literally every other service that I log into using my Google/Microsoft accounts.

Drive is one of those....

[-] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago

ill prefer made in canada, and be fine with 'not american'

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[-] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

I wish we could do that. The biggest problem with doing so is oil. There is no continuous pipeline from Alberta to eastern Canada that doesn't move through the States. If the worst happened, the biggest Canadian economies, Ontario and Quebec, would be devastated.

[-] Routhinator@startrek.website 4 points 1 day ago

Before that oil was moved through pipelines it was moved by train, I'm sure that could be arranged to bridge some of the demand. Not perfect by any means, but it would help until we could solve the pipeline problem. At this point we need to plan for a "when" scenario.

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[-] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 136 points 3 days ago

Trump is an expert on children's sex.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

Nah, children can't consent, so that's rape.

[-] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Rape is sex. It's sex without consent.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

(that's the joke)

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[-] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago

wouldn't it be the icing on the cake if the orange steaming pile of shit was trans? You know what they say about the most homophobic/transphobic people...

[-] Amuletta@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago

He does like his makeup, corsets and heel lifts.

[-] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

He would have become an iconic drag queen if he made a couple different choices in the 1980s... so sad.

[-] CXORA@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago

"They" say that because cishet people don't like to admit culpability.

[-] borQue@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 days ago

Normally, when somebody becomes more idiot, he gets less attention. That's how we do it in Europe. Waiting for the Americans to come alongside

[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

This is how it should be done. I have no idea why people love propagating this shit so much. The guy has no morals and seeks attention. Both sides are feeding into it.

Treat him like the turd he is - flush him down and forget about him.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 96 points 3 days ago

“We’re not going to take away your child and change the sex of your child… unless your child’s sex and gender don’t align with what we think they should be, in which case CPS will forcibly remove the child from that twisted family and enrol them in conversion therapy.”

Nah trump is just gonna take your child away with ICE and disappear them into whatever island hes setting up for Maxwell when he pardons her and gets her back to running Epsteins business for him

[-] shittydwarf@piefed.social 80 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's a tough spot having to endure the demented child rapist elected (twice) by our southern neighbours, probably best to just smile and nod and sucker punch that fucking moronic nazi when he's not looking

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

When he's not looking

Why? It's not like he has the reflexes to dodge. Let him see it coming.

[-] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 40 points 3 days ago

If Carney just punched him in the face I would vote for him again based on that alone.

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[-] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If only Carney was a good politican who had helped Canada in literally any way since taking office. At least he sorta looks good in comparison to a dementia riddled fascist, I guess. Fascists will see this as Canada bowing to the king.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

I'm not remotely a fan, but he has done some good things. Recognizing the state of Palestine might not be a game changer, but it's a good start. The across the board military pay rise was absolutely needed and has done a lot to improve morale and retention in the CAF. The CRA will have automatic tax filing for low-income Canadians from next year onward. We finalised a trade and defence deal with Indonesia, the fifth (I think) most populous country in the world. Most recently, the government has put in a challenge to the supreme court to try to limit the powers of the notwithstanding clause, which if successful could really help to constrain the ways its being abused by people like Ford and Smith (they're already bitching about this at the top of their lungs, which is all the proof you need that it's a good thing). Still gonna vote NDP, but I always like to give credit when it's due.

[-] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

A lot of those are baby steps so small, it's frustrating. But I get what you mean. At least it's in the right direction.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 days ago

I hate that he's better than the alternative

I hate seeing us becoming more of a two party system

we need voting reform

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We’re not - the NDP will be back. They are in talks to get $ from the liberals so they support the budget, NDP with Avi Lewis or the union guy will rise again.

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[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 3 days ago

I did not know that about him.

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