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Note: the MacOS part is false

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[-] tal@olio.cafe 103 points 2 weeks ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Plummer

David William Plummer (born August 9, 1968) is a Canadian-American programmer and entrepreneur. He created the Task Manager for Windows, the Space Cadet Pinball ports to Windows NT, Zip file support for Windows, HyperCache[2] for the Amiga and many other software products.

2025: The guy that wrote Windows' Task Manager at Microsoft is creating burner accounts to get the OS installed.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I've been doing that whenever I had to do a Windows installation in recent years. But I don't plan to ever install Windows again.

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[-] passepartout@feddit.org 40 points 2 weeks ago

Funny that this comes from a Windows dev.

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[-] Aharennini@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I was about to say “since when” about MacOS, good thing you added the note. Windows is objectively just more data hungry than MacOS. The fact that you need to sign in to use the default calendar says it all on Windows

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 15 points 2 weeks ago
[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago
[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 10 points 2 weeks ago

Understandable. Have a nice day.

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[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago
[-] naught101@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago
[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago

I'd say that's an undercount but 1995 seems a reasonable start date.

[-] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
[-] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

3 minutes. Clicking the ‘show more’ button before taking a screenshot was too hard for op apparently.

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[-] MudMan@fedia.io 10 points 2 weeks ago

Does that read as justifying it? It sure seems like he's providing a workaround, same as all the people who used to point at the simple shortcut to work around the requirement when that worked smoothly.

I mean, I, for one, hadn't thought about it. It's not a terrible way to go about it. Doesn't help me, I need a MS account to do Office stuff so I may as well, but if you're really hung up on this and can't avoid Windows it's a decend solution.

[-] freeman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

"same as MacOS" is clearly trying to make excuses.

[-] detren@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

It’s also wrong. MacOS allows you to go through setup with a local account and doesn’t force you to connect to the internet either

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[-] Baggie@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago

Idk about you guys but I got sick of using an os that obviously doesn't want me to use it.

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Since everyone is dogging on Dave for his MacOS comment - I doubt he even realized MacOS has a "skip" option for the Apple ID.

Weird hill to die on, guys.

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[-] fleet@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

With Windows 10 eol coming up, I installed Bazzite on my buddies computer. All he uses it for is games, browser and editing the occasional document. The transition has been really seemless so far, and he is not technologically adept in the slightest.

[-] tomkatt@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Linux install: maybe 10 or 15 minutes tops from booting USB to desktop access, login is local, network connection is optional.

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

I installed Linux on a friend's old laptop in an attempt to wring a few more years out of it, and they told me that they were surprised at how easy to use it was. I think most people just struggle with feeling intimidated. There is a bit of a learning curve, but the main obstacle is getting over that initial inertia

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Can't tell if he's joking considering all of his videos as a former MSFT engineer.

Then again, he is a former MSFT engineer lol.

[-] qx128@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Dave is amazing, and his content on YouTube is very entertaining. This is a pragmatic answer for those who want or need Windows in some capacity, and then want to go on a use local accounts. Have some decency and recognize good advice when you see it.

[-] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

It only really works if you maintain access to a burner account, which might be difficult in the long term.

[-] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Don't you need a phone number to create an account?

[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No, I'm farming bing rewards with fake searches to convert that in groceries gift cards (a random bing search made with a Microsoft edge user agent gives you €0.003 and the sponsored ones give €0.012) so I have a dozen Microsoft accounts. They only ask the phone number when you redeem the bing points, not when signing up, and one time I got an a/b test where I could avoid giving my phone number (number must be unique and not used in another Microsoft account, unfortunately) if I agreed to install the bing app malware on a smartphone

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

You don't even need Microsoft burner account

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[-] yrnttm@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

You can open the powershell during install to get around the Microsoft id, and make a local user.

[-] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Rooster326@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

Are they also removing the Rufus method?

No idea how that works.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You don't need an account on Windows either (just pirate the pro version)

Dave Plummer is the same guy who thinks Linux is a disease

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[-] Bongles@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

It's not an awful take to say something like "Hey, you can get around this requirement by creating a burner account, then creating local accounts". His wording is a bit off but he's an odd guy, who also used to scam people, so this isn't that bad in the grand scheme. He's also heavily biased to windows.

On the topic of the account, I moved to Linux and I threw an LTSC build of Windows 10 on another nvme drive so I could play a couple games that use anti cheat. I figure by the time that's no longer supported developers will just accept Linux in their games or i won't care anymore.

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

David Plumber is a former Windows engineer, and has a YouTube channel where he shares stories about his time at Microsoft.

Of course he has positive Windows opinions, and of course he yaps about it like he’s an expert: because he is

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

His "expert" opinion is quite dated

[-] despoticruin@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

I watch his videos from time to time, he stays quite up to date when it comes to the underpinnings of modern software engineering. Mind you, just because he retired doesn't mean he stopped tinkering and building. By all accounts he is still poking around in a number of projects and contributes his fair share of expertise. I'm not a fan of him not outright calling out Microsoft for their bullshit, but I do respect the sheer amount of expertise he brings to the table. Calling him out of date, particularly with the level of understanding needed to make something like a task manager, doesn't seem fair.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

He wrote task manager. I trust him.

[-] zecg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know who needs to hear this, but you don't need to smell shit while eating it.

You do need to get it down your throat, but you can just keep your nose pinched with your fingers, same as MacOS.

After that, throw up as much as you like. It's what I do. Total calories delta: 100 kcal

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