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would be kinda amusing if we had similar ceremonies here on Lemmy.

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 33 points 6 months ago

The current institution just uses it to whitewash war criminals like Kissinger or to manufacture consent, such as this current year with trying to justify regime change in Venezuela against a popularly elected leader while the US Empire slaughters Venezuelans.

An actual peace prize? Give it to those who risked their lives or sacrificed them in trying to deliver aid to Palestine. The journalists that Israel murdered, the doctors working in Gaza trying to save as many people as possible from genocide.

[-] zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 months ago

You argue for the martyrs to receive these prizes ?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes, absolutely. They've done far more for peace than the vast majority of the prize's actual recipients.

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

Nobel prizes cannot be given to the dead.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

Doesn't mean we can't change the rules, plus many of the doctors and aid workers are still alive.

[-] Vanth@reddthat.com 24 points 6 months ago

I think it's dumb how much cultural weight the Nobel Peace Prize is still given. It's a popularity contest judged by 5 Norwegian politicians.

Obama getting the prize less than a year into his presidential term, only to airstrike Libya two years later. And the entire EU winning the prize in 2012 for existing.

I'm similarly unimpressed with prestige awards elsewhere, like the Oscars for film.

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Didn't Trump get nominated for it at some point while actively building an allegator prison?

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 20 points 6 months ago

Greta Thunberg

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 6 months ago

greta or the flotilla crew but they definitely wouldn't accept it; i honestly don't know of many people who are truely working for peace in the world.

[-] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 months ago

I wonder how many millennials' parenting career she saved

[-] nixus@anarchist.nexus 9 points 6 months ago

No, not since Obama got one. I'm sure some were given to other monsters before him, but he was the one that made me stop taking it seriously in any capacity.

[-] ultranaut@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Much worse people have received it than him. Kissinger most notably.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It really doesn't make any sense. The candidates and winners are chosen by a committee appointed by the Norwegian goverment, there is 0 objectivity there. The notion that it is a legit award gets more ridiculous the more you read into it.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 5 points 6 months ago

It has always been hit or miss and has been given to warmongers who happen to negotiate for peace at one point.

[-] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 5 points 6 months ago

The problem is, I think, abundance of quality - or the lack thereof. For all the research based prizes, there is enough stuff floating around the ether that you can pick something interesting and worth the prize to be awarded. Old Phil Physicist, not by accident a man, will get the prize for fundamental research into clockwise spinning protons and that helps us today with welding or something. Nobody but the experts understands this and we're okay with that.

And then Literature and Peace. They seem more subjective. Us non-labcoats have opinions on these ones. And thus the controversy likelihood is much higher.

Since they get awarded every year, it's become a fixture in media coverage. Like the New Year's ball drop, Carnival in Rio, the Pope urbi'ing et orbi'ing, Black Friday, etc. It's predictable news coverage.

I don't think they should stop it. Even the institutionalized reminder once a year that it's worth it working towards peace is not a bad thing. I think the prize has the most gravitas when it's awarded for long time services to peace on the books. Like giving it to the chemical weapons disposers, the red crescent/cross or even the EU, which has probably prevented more deaths from wars within than it has tolerated refugees drowning in the Med. They have done more good stuff for peace. It's tricky when they give it to people for more current achievements. Kissinger wasn't the peacemaker it looked like he was. Aung San Su Kyi was a great figurehead while under house arrest 1.0 - and arguably not great enough for the Rohingya when she was let out. Obama got it because they thought he wasn't Bush, and then he sent the drones. We want our laureates to be saints and it hurts when we find out they are just flawed humans.

[-] lunatique@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

I think it's dumb the most peaceful people aren't people who are recognized nearly enough to be a candidate for the "Nobel peace prize". Also out of billions of humans giving it to one person (sometimes organization) is foolish

[-] olbaidiablo@lemmy.ca -3 points 6 months ago

Obama. Mostly because the orange one would have a stroke if that happened.

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone -4 points 6 months ago
[-] felsiq@piefed.zip 15 points 6 months ago

I’m upvoting this because it made me laugh and I’m 90% sure you’re joking, but I think other people may be less sure and you might wanna add a /s lol

[-] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 months ago

I sure as shit hope you’re joking. I reckon you probs are, but poes law strikes again

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