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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

alot of tropical ones tend to be poisonous too, because so much diversity of insects, trying to eat them develop toxins in thier parts. also some plants have to super poisonous because insects evolve to build resistance them, so plants have to respond by becoming more toxic. thats why poisonous plants are kinda invasive.

yes english ivy is poisonous(berries) to non-avians.

Every September, I make a year's supply of beautyberry jelly.

I do something that I don't recommend people do: I can it. I'm like 5 years in, and I haven't had a problem yet. There's a series of pages in my Ball canning recipe book that the beautyberry jelly recipe I use conforms pretty close to, but it isn't USDA approved or otherwise published by some authority as safe for canning, I'm going to recommend you avoid this.

Beautyberries, if you're not familiar with them, are a bush/shrub native to the American southeast. The plant looks like a bunch of stems with leaves that grow along them, along with clusters of tiny white flowers in the spring at the base of each pair of leaves, that turn into vivid purple berries in the fall. The leaves can be used as a mosquito repellent if rubbed on clothing, and the berries are edible...although they're bitter and astringent. Boiling them in water to make an extract and making jelly from that extract results in a bright red jelly that tastes like strawberry and tea.

It's something of a pain to harvest, so it pretty much isn't commercially done.

[-] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

Everything I've seen from Ball/Kerr has been safe canning recipes! Love their stuff, use their website for recipes often.

Oh I've misread. You picked a berry close to it and are substituting that in, yeah? I'd try it on myself but probably wouldn't give it away.

Sounds like a beautiful jelly though!

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 6 points 22 hours ago

Yes, I have Ball's Complete Book Of Home Preserving (which is a terrible title, as the book contains no information about dehydrating, freeze drying, jerking or brewing, only water bath and pressure canning). It has a procedure for "berry" jelly where it lists half a dozen different kinds of berries and how to extract juice from them, to include elderberry, and then you use a quantity of said "berry" juice in a standard jelly recipe. Independent of this, I've found a beautyberry jelly recipe that resembles this procedure, so I feel okay canning it, and have done so for years now. I'm going to stop short of recommending it to anyone else. By all means, if you've got access to beautyberries, make the jelly, but can it at your own risk.

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[-] BlushedPotatoPlayers@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 day ago

You guys don't eat sorrel?

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

It isn't common in the US, but I was lucky enough to grow up with it as a staple in my dad's garden. Funny thing, our family referred to it by its Polish name, so I didn't know the English word for it until I was a teenager.

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[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I hate to bring race and racism into this, but one reason why I laugh at many racists, especially European racists, is how they claim they love their own national culture but do jack shit to have ANYTHING to do with its pre-colonial cuisine. Take British cuisine for example. While obviously people in medieval England (even the richest people at the time) had far fewer options than most people in the UK today, but they still used many herbs and plants for seasonings that are only being rediscovered by reenactors in recent years, and they are actually quite good.

More than just culture, the dangers of over-reliance on a handful of crops and cultivars is also dangerous. The Irish potato famine happened in the 1840s due to Irish potato crops just being a few kinds instead of the hundreds of varieties that you would find in South America. The result of this is that a blight that would have had a negligible effect in South America absolutely devastated Ireland. More recently in the 20th century, we have a near complete destruction of the Gros Michel banana in the 1950s. When you go to your typical supermarket, the bananas you see there are more than likely going to be Cavendish Bananas, which were considered inferior to Gros Michel in the past, but due to disease rendering Gros Michel bananas commercially nonviable they were chosen because they were all we got...

and the same shit could happen at any time to the Cavendish banana, too.

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[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 115 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is dumb. Most plants resist cultivation. Bragging about being able to afford them does not make you Superior.

Also yields are important

[-] Eq0@literature.cafe 80 points 1 day ago

Resist cultivation or have some other undesirable properties. Often low yield, short harvest, low yield, difficult picking or transporting.

A favorite example of mine: oak’s acorns are sometimes edible. Roughly one in ten oaks produce edible acorns. They are indistinguishable from inedible ones unless you try them out - but inedible ones are fairly poisonous. The gene for edible acorns is recessive and it takes at least a decade before you know if a newly planted oak produces edible acorns or not, with a 10% probability of the former. It is just practically impossible to select for this criterion. Thus, we don’t eat acorns.

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 4 points 19 hours ago

Also acorns ain't particularly nutritious.

[-] danekrae@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago

Often low yield, short harvest, low yield, difficult picking or transporting.

And let's not forget, low yield.

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I mean, I think that goes back to the whole “industrial farming” point. If it can’t be farmed, it won’t be commercially available. But there are plenty of plants that you could scavenge, if you knew what to look for.

One of my personal favorite niche plants is osha root. It’s one of the best cures for a sore throat. It tastes a little bit like dirty root beer, and it’ll numb your entire throat when you chew on it. Native Americans kept some around for medicine. You can even grind it up and smear it on shallow scrapes to numb the area. You can find it in teas like Throat Coat, which is a sort of secret weapon for performers and public speakers whenever they have a sore throat.

But it can’t be commercially farmed, because it exclusively grows in the Rocky Mountains where a specific type of fungus helps it thrive. It isn’t commercially viable to market to the masses like throat lozenges, (even though it is just as effective in reducing sore throats) because it has to be scavenged.

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 3 points 19 hours ago

If it can't be farmed there cannot be enough for everyone, but it will be exclusive to a select few. How they are selected is irrelevant.

[-] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 19 hours ago

My point wasn’t that commercial farming is bad. With 8 billion people on the planet, it’s a necessity. My point was simply that scavenging to supplant your needs should be more encouraged, and the knowledge should be passed down.

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[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 23 hours ago

there are plenty of plants that you could scavenge

But what happens when “you” becomes a million people? A hundred million people? A billion people? Where I live, we can’t even have a nice field of flowers because a hundred Instagram models will trample and ruin it before spring is over. Scavenging and foraging literally cannot feed the 7 billion human mouths on this planet.

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[-] xylogx@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Paw paws grow naturally in the area I live and are a delicious fruit. Due to cultivation and transport issues you will never find them in stores.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimina_triloba

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[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago

Ok I'll bite (literally), how does a person break into this niche, since it is definitely not a market? My engineering degrees did not heavily cover edible plants in my area? I can go find morel mushrooms and identify sassafras but that about covers it.

If I could buy like a ring of +4 to local botany that would be best I think.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 5 points 23 hours ago

For me, it helped expand my cosmos by leaving things out and looking for alternatives.
Like, I found out about a world of legumes by going vegan. And earlier this year, I stopped eating wheat for health reasons, and only then started to appreciate the existence of millet, quinoa, amaranth, buckwheat etc..

I am probably still within the range of "usual" foods, all things considered, but at least I'm breaking out of a tiny subset of those...

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[-] MxRemy@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago

This is a very timely meme for me. Specifically because today, after many years of trial and error, I have finally managed to successfully cook Phaseolus polystachios beans!

Mine are natirally very bitter and tough, not sure how widely that varies from specimen to specimen. Also presumably chock full of toxins/anti-nutrients... I've been taking the bitterness as an analogue for how much of that remains, for lack of any other other way to tell.

Today, for the first time, I've managed to make them tender and not bitter at all. They taste pretty good!

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago

Eat your weeds... This is Common Purslane:

It grows mostly everywhere and is a huge source of Omega 3 fatty acids. It's much better cooked in my opinion. Also it's best to find them in a field and not by the roadside where it may be leeching up god knows what hydrocarbon adjacent type of poisons.

[-] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Omg people can eat these??? My horse goes absolutely crazy for these things

Now I gotta try some and see what all the fuss is about

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[-] Montagge@lemmy.zip 53 points 1 day ago

I harvest stinging nettle to use as a spinach replacement

I'm going to try to make maple syrup from big leaf maples this year too!

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