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That's a really cool name for lying you got there.
Lawyers can be remarkably polite and professional when they want to be. Sometimes, they also have a sense of humor that’s as dry as the Sahara. I love it.
Edit: duplicated a word
That's exactly why I love following the court adventures of Alex Jones. Sometimes the lawyers tell him straight to his face "You lied to me", other times official letters are written as politely as possible, but pretty much stating that AJ is an incompetent drunk who can't be trusted to get even the basics right.
Source: Knowledge Fight podcast, all "Formulaic objections" episodes.
Well, especially nowadays when the news is getting sued for reporting. Gotta be careful, and "lying" is slanderous/libelous, while "material factual" whatever, I can't remember the third word, inconsistency, error, doesn't matter, it doesn't have the feel of an attack.
Basically, they took away the temporary restraining order on the use of national guard, found out trump and the other republicans lied, then let the restraining order stand.
"Plaintiffs write to alert the Court of a material factual error by defendants on which the panel relied to grant a stay pending appeal," the citation of supplemental authorities reads. "Given that reliance, and the gravity of the interests at stake, plaintiffs ask that the panel immediately withdraw its order or, in the alternative, that the en banc court immediately vacate it."
For now. I'm sure SCOTUS is eager to tell us plebs just how immaterial material factual errors are because none of the founding slavers said he shouldn't do that, specifically.
(Clarence Thomas handwriting) Nothing in the constitution says cities have any rights
This was not an "error". It was a lie.
So, they will be held in contempt and locked up, right? Right?... Right?
And disbarred
and have bits of their corpses displayed in front of the courthouse as a warning to all attorneys who might hold the truth in contempt
edit: oops, skipped a few steps
I didn't understand most of these legal sounding words. I have no idea what the conclusion of this is. So they allowed him to break the law, or stopped him again from breaking it? Can someone translate this to normal english please
- Trump admin sends national guard
- State sues to stop the troops from being sent
- Court grants a temporary block on sending troops pending a final determination
- Trump admin asks 9th Circuit to intervene and block the ruling that prevented them from sending troops, arguing that they needed to send 25% of all Federal Protection Service agents to safeguard ICE, which left others vulnerable, and that the national guard deployment would alleviate that problem.
- Based partially on this 25% stat, 9th Circuit agrees to block the lower court's temporary order preventing troops from being sent to Oregon. This did not stop the lawsuit, but did allow the troops to be sent while the lawsuit proceeded
- Plaintiffs (state of Oregon) informed the 9th Circuit that the number of FPS agents sent at a single time was not 25% (actually closer to 7%), and requests that their decision be reversed. 9th Circuit reviews the situation and agrees, reinstating the temporary order that prevents the Trump admin from sending troops to Oregon
They didn't claim a low number of troops, they claimed a high number of Federal Protection Service officers. They claimed that they had to send 25% (115) of all protection officers to Portland to protect ICE and that demonstrates an inability to execute federal law. The actual peak number of protection officers deployed at any one time was 31.
ah you're right, I misread. correcting....
Trump admin lied, so the higher court stopped stopping the stop the lower court put to the administration's activities in Portland.
That means the court is currently saying "Trump cannot send troops to Portland".
Stop my head hurts
No this is healthy
I think. I'm actually having a rough time keeping up myself.
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Trump deployed National Guard troops to Oregon. Oregon sued for an emergency restraining order to stop him. The court issued the restraining order. Asked to review the finding of issuing the restraining order, the initial court that issued the restraining order decided that, upon further review, it should stand because the Trump admin lied.
This is the one good thing to come from LLMs. You can feed legalese into them and ask it to talk like a normal person.
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