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submitted 1 month ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Online pornography showing strangulation or suffocation is to be made illegal, as part of government plans to tackle violence against women and girls.

It follows a review which found depictions of choking were "rife" on mainstream porn sites and had helped normalise the act among young people.

Both the possession and publication of such material will be a criminal offence, under amendments to the Crime and Policing Bill currently going through Parliament.

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[-] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

Jfc more conservative pearl clutching censorship laws in supposedly developed countries? What a time to be alive.

[-] obinice@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Don't worry, it's not the Conservatives, it's the Labour Government implementing this!

Good thing Labour will never be anything like the Tories amirite fellow chokers?

[-] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm a fairly progressive liberal, and I don't think this is an entirely bad idea as it can be a dangerous practice. It's so prevalent in porn (especially the free stuff those new to sex are likely to start with) that it makes it seem an almost routine part of sexual activity. The more aggressive young people sometimes will then pressure their partners to try it without really understanding the limits, potentially leading to deadly results.

I honestly don't know if this happens much - if at all - so I admit I may indeed be "pearl clutching," and am open to being proven wrong. As things stand, however, I don't see how allowing the act to be so frequently portrayed can be seen as a net positive.

[-] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Then don't look it up. My partner likes to be seriously choked during sex...what you gonna arrest me for making my partner cum?

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

what you gonna arrest me for making my partner cum?

It might be the endgame at this point, who knows. We're currently at "actors doing plays and people watching plays might become illegal".

[-] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've NEVER "looked it up," but it seems to be an almost mandatory part of most videos produced anymore - along with the usual several positions that must be assumed, and ending virtually every video in a facial. They all look the same.

Well okay, did the last time I bothered looking for porn videos regularly. It's been quite a while since I just couldn't seem to avoid shit like that. Text stories are my porn anymore.

I don't GAF what you & your partner prefer to do in your private time. Conflating that with porn is both disingenuous, and possibly telling of how highly you think of yourself.

[-] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I mentioned what my partner and I do because at what point do these ridiculous laws stop? Right now, it's just porn, but then it's what you do in the privacy of your bedroom.

Choking has not been a big thing in porn. There's a shit ton of porn so of course there's a lot of choking porn, doesn't mean it's the main thing.

And positions now? What are you a nun? Does doggy bother you? Does Cowgirl? And highly of myself? Nah, I've been having a healthy sex life for 15 yrs...I'm just confident in my abilities.

You're the one coming off highly of themselves. Like we should care that you get bothered by sex between 2 or more consenting adults.

Like, where do folks like you get this entitlement? That you can tell the rest of us what to do? Leave us alone. Leave others alone. Maybe worry about the pastors and government officials raping kids?

High horse riding.

[-] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

where the fuck do you source your porn from so that choking is so prevalent ?! When looking for this sort of content it’s super hard to find some…

[-] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

Well, where are all those deaths caused by choking during sex because of porn? I would bet that many more visits to er are caused by trying to emulate the sex in the bath tube while having a couple wine glasses around scenes so typical in 'romantic' movies/shows, than by all the kinks seen in porn together.

Parents should, and I'm aware many do, tell their children that tv, movies, porn... are meant to entertain, not teach, and they are very different from how real life things work.

[-] Semester3383@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I am... Rather older than most of you, in all probability. My partner likes being choked; not hard, not actually cutting off air or blood, but the sensation of hands or an arm around their throat. They also like being caned, and spanked; I'm into fairly serious rope bondage (as a rope top) and CNC.

Under British law, a large percentage of the sexual activities that we both enjoy together would be criminal offenses.

For what it's worth, in the 1920s, oral sex was considered shocking to moral sensibilities, perverted, an affront against nature, and grotesquely obscene. I suspect that the view from the year 2100--should humanity survive that long--will see choking in much the same way.

[-] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

It sure seems like the puritans are in charge these days. And their using kids to ram through whatever the fuck they want. As long as no one is getting hurt, I dont really see what business it is of any government what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes. I mean, even if you were choking her out, as long as it was what she wanted, its really up to you two to take on the risks.

I dont understand it, but who cares? Im not in the room. Its nothing to do with me, or anyone else. I cant help but feel this is the beginning of something a bit more sinister. Maybe someday soon, blow jobs will be looked down upon again. Or far more likely, being gay will be looked down upon again. Cos thats where these weirdos always look to when they talk about things "corrupting the youth". A bit of slap and tickle first, attack the LGBT crowd next under the guise of protecting the children/young people. "Youre not gay, youve just seen too many blowjobs, Timmy. Youll be alright after we send you to a re-education camp."...

[-] Xanadu@feddit.online 5 points 1 month ago

It's a good start...

[-] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

“We’ve found a lot of videos online, and we’re going to keep watching until you stop making them!”

[-] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago
[-] thelivefive@startrek.website 4 points 1 month ago

Penetration itself can be viewed as an act of violence and the government should probably put everyone who has thought about it on a surveillance list.

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

The morality police in the UK strike again. They're slowly turning into Saudi Arabia the longer they keep this up.

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

No wonder they keep importing people with this exact moral view.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

If the argument for the ban is that depiction normalizes it, then there should be a ban on violence in all media, right?

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

What's next? BDSM?

Only porn allowed will be missionary position?

[-] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

Only porn allowed will be missionary position?

No. I think it's a step by step approach, that will go further than that. After only missionary, they'll make the actors get married before having any sex, all under the blankets and as clothed as possible, no condom or pulling out allowed either, and at the end of the scene it has to show the beautiful baby born nine months after. No gay porn, of course, or trans, interracial, more than to people (man™️ and woman™️)... sex is for procreation! How you dare enjoying it, you sinner!

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Only if it's for procreation, too.

[-] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Might be a good idea to say which government when you're posting to world news?

[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

If I didn't know how exploitative the current porn industry is I'd defend the choking but holy shit producers are fucking vile.

[-] etherphon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I suppose I would file this one under massive sex education failure, if youths are having to learn about sex from porn there's already a problem.

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

So men don't get choked? Why are these things always gender specific?

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I like to get a little choked every now and then, during. Am I illegal?

[-] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yes I recommend you handcuff yourself immediately, maybe tie yourself up a bit, you’ve been pretty naughty

[-] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

They do. Watch most pegging, or "Trans fucks guy" videos, and the dude will be turning fucking beetroot while getting pounded hard.

[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You know, there's a fun observation to be made here: for every perversion you ban, the more niche ones move further up the view list. In essence, short of a complete porn ban (which is their final goal), they're likely to make the problem worse.

In terms of boys learning violence from this kind of porn - surely the online safety act is doing that right? Of course not; that act has failed gloriously and this proposed change evidences that.

The real solution they should be considering is strong messages about "safe, sane, consensual". Stick it up on posters, make it a mandatory banner on porn sites (who would complain, really), even take that shit into schools (it's good practice even for vanilla). The real issue isn't the acts themselves, it's the way we talk about them, or more don't!

[-] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I don’t disagree that it’s troubling how mainstream choking is in modern porn. It’s definitely been a huge shift. There’s nothing against it as a fetish, but it being a fetish with potential harmful consequences suggests that it should be in the same category as BDSM - something which can be problematic unless it’s done as an exercise in trust between partners with full informed consent.

And there have been plenty of seemingly not agenda-led studies which suggest that teen boys and girls are both picking up a lot of what they consider to be “normal” about sex from porn.

And not even talking to each other about it. IIRC, there was one such study which had both boys and girls engaging in a particular behaviour (I forget exactly which, maybe even choking), and neither party actively enjoyed the behaviour, they were just doing it because they thought that’s what you do and therefore what their partner wanted.

But is the solution to ban porn which features choking? Firstly, I don’t see how this could in any way be effective. How would you possibly enforce it? Are police really going to raid people’s homes based on suspicion that they’ve got a nowadays-vanilla porn video on their harddrive? The police literally don’t have enough resources to investigate and prosecute everybody creating and sharing child porn. And now they’re supposed to go after everybody who visits PornHub?

Secondly, we’re basically talking about a de-facto porn ban because, as the consultation itself noted, that describes pretty much all porn made in the last 10-15 years.

I’m not sure what the solution is. I mean, talking about the difference bewteen porn and sex is something that should be part of sex education at school. But I kind of assume it already is? It would be weird if it weren’t in 2025.

Perhaps it would be worthwhile to engage with creators themselves? I know that several porn companies used to put disclaimers before their videos saying that there’s a difference between porn sex and real sex and talking about consent. Several BDSM porn producers also have pre and post-shoot interviews with the performers and make sure they talk on camera about safe words & gestures and consent.

But then that’s something that’s probably not going to be terribly effective in any case and which would require absolutely everybody to get on board, which would have been basically impossible back when it was only really studios producing content, and 100% impossible now that OnlyFans etc are the way that most performers make and distribute porn.

I don’t think it’s an easy question to answer, TBH, but I’m pretty sure that “ban all the porn” isn’t the correct solution.

[-] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I can't help but feeling as though the exact same pearl clutching wieners are behind this as the growing attempts at overall porn ban, as though restriction of access to the content will somehow cut the legs out from under the already widespread (albeit uncommon) practice.

To wit, people aren't choking each other during sex or risking David Carradine'ing themselves while wanking because of some shit-production porn, they're doing it because it's enjoyable to them (choker and choke-ee). I'm not going to kinkshame except to say that there's no method of getting a head-rush that I'd personally recommend, but based on what sex-choke enjoyers that I know have said, it makes them cum extra-hard. So... there's that, the mega-cums.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Choking causes permanent brain damage. MRI scans prove the brain has to rewire itself due to massive cell death. Also, the majority of it is man choking women so it has serious implications of fucked up power dynamics. To top it off the vast majority of choking is non-consensual.

Even if it is consensual the long term effects are likely dementia along with other serious and progressive neurological conditions.

Are you going to volunteer taking care of hundreds of thousands of choking related dementia patients. Whose is going to pay for this considering this level of care can run hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.

Boo, "pro censorship" arguments presented as concern for others.

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Porn is acting. Play. Or maybe you think everyone that gets shot in a movie is actually killed during recording?

There's no point arguing that "choking is bad". I'm pretty sure any sane person would agree.

[-] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I already don't like that kind of shit, it's an immediate turn-off for me.

But - I also know there's a whole kink around it, and as long as it's consensual.....who tf cares?

[-] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

i feel like i am fine with them making rules about like published porn like this in principle

I think the part where it says the possesion is illegal much more concerning. Like so if you film this in private for yourself, it would be a crime? Laws should only restrict what you can do privately, if it is absolutly necessary. To do what you want in private, is what freedom truly means. Everything else is tyranny.

[-] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 month ago

They should just cut to the chase & ban breeding. You know how dangerous childbirth is? Compound that with the consequences of birth: everyone born dies. Altogether, a terribly dangerous idea.

Let this be the last human generation.

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ah….so this is why confused dog Tucker expressed his moral outrage at this activity, completely unprompted, to known Nazi Nick Fuentes who is on the record very recently and repeatedly over the years of his wasted youth as a hate mongering whelp and a self-loathing failson, stating that women should have all of their legal and human rights taken away.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 1 month ago

This is in direct response to some recent studies that claimed that chocking is the second most common cause of stroke in women under 40. Other studied found that there is no safe amount of oxygen deprivation, any chocking leads to brain damage. Other risks of choking are difficulty swallowing, incontinence, seizures, memory problems, depression, anxiety and miscarriage.

What happened is that porn normalized chocking. It used to be limited to the "hard core" types of porn but now it's mainstream and kids that grew up watching it think it's just normal part of sex. Most women asked about it say that they don't enjoy it but do it "for their partner’s pleasure".

So yeah, the government treats it as a public health issue and bans it.

I'm not a scientists, I didn't review all those studies and frankly I don't care one way of the other. Just wanted to give people some context.

You can read more about it here: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/jul/07/no-safe-way-risks-of-choking-during-sex

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

porn normalized chocking

I'm not sold on the "porn normalized XYZ", or non porn either. There's plenty of content of all kinds showing all kind of things that would be deemed dangerous, wrong, lethal, immoral, cruel, etc. but somehow, it's only porn and kinks we're talking about. If the prevalence of something in easily accessible media was a thing, I'd have a thing or two to tell about cops choking/gasing/beating up people laying on the ground.

I'm more concerned by the amount of people that consider fictional content to be guidelines for how they actually live their life. It seems that there's enough of them to warrant censoring weird shit, but as long as this side of the issue is not addressed, this will not stop.

When I was younger (yes… classic one) a lot of people were worried that younger generation could not distinguish fiction from reality. And we didn't even have realistic fiction, too. Now that we do, it seems that too many people consider "normalisation" through any media the natural course of things. Kinda like video game making people violent… only when it is convenient.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

To anyone celebrating this: you're defending a fucking bad faith law!

Does any of the recent anti-LGBTQ+ laws are just to protect little Jimmy being a "little confused", to protect him from "making life altering decisions"? Did any of the Nazi anti-Jewish laws were only made to stop predatory banking? Fuck no! And fuck you if you think we can just "undo it easily later on: no one wants to be the "pervert politician", no one wants to be smeared by the opposition as "the real misogynist" or a "pervert being occupied with things other than the economy", so no one will do it.

I don't like choking in porn. The problem is a failure of both the lack of sexual education, and not holding platforms accountable for replatforming the likes of Andrew Tate, not some smut.

[-] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Search: How to do the Heimlich maneuver? YouTube: sorry this video has been deleted for depicting scenes of people choking.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

You forgot the 5 unskippable ads before they finally show you the video was deleted.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 0 points 1 month ago

While im not cool with making playacting illegal I would be very happy for it to not be so fucking common in the vids. Can we stop with the little slaps to. I think the problem with a lot of kinks that don't completely drive the person away. Am I still gonna watch the porn. Well yeah, probably, but I would prefer it without it. Whats funny is seeing the same porn videos with differen titles. various incest scenarios and then something else.

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Am I still gonna watch the porn. Well yeah, probably

You're the problem then, stop giving those videos views.

[-] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

1st world people are pussies... Does that mean we can ban them now? They pay the devils and then protest them. Like the way these countries make terrorists and then make funds off of killing them. It's not beyond humans to make a legal business off these things.

Fr though it's the same essential problem for every subtopic... Drugs, sex ,business... Everything... They have this idea good and bad can be boiled down into simplified acts regardless of intention and emotion... Its such a childish thoughtless ideology. And it's not just Republicans, Democrats, labour or liberal, do they same thing when they jump on the sjw bandwagon.

Leading modern nations are fucked.

It doesn't even seem like law and order, the whole modern world feels like a crime and slave trade racket.

[-] CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

While I don’t disagree with you, I believe this is in the UK, so I’m not quite connecting the dots on the American tie in.

[-] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's pretty much the same in any 1st world country. There's not a lot of people running the globe.

People think that's outlandish but look at Epstein's reach and he was basically a common bitch in the game.

[-] Morti@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

I think this is talking about the UK, not the US.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ironic, the person condemning America automatically assumes every article is about America... how American of you.

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