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[-] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Can I ask what your main issue is with Christine?

[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Can't speak for OP but I'm presuming it's her association by maternal relation with one of the leaders of the modern Democratic party, of which the blatant corruption, chronic neglect of the working class and unwillingness to pass off positions of power to the next generation has brought upon an era of desperation, extreme political divide and fascism.

I actually know next to nothing about Christine Pelosi or her politics. For all I know she could be the most progressive politician in California. But I find it far more likely that she's just going to follow in her mother's footsteps and push to maintain the status quo that benefits the wealthy and powerful at the cost of the average American.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Well now we've moved on to another topic, the claim of blatant corruption of Nancy Pelosi, can you cite an example of that?

[-] hatorade@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

They didn't change topic, you just didn't like the answer they gave.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think we both moved naturally in this direction, didn't accuse them of "changing the topic."

I think it's important to mention Pelosi never traded any stocks. Her sin was marrying a stock broker and having joint assets starting in college and refusing to ban that very act from congress. Many times this resulted in going against her husbands and her own interests, such as when she voted to regulate VISA despite them selling Paul a lucrative stock option, or the years where they actually operated at a net loss.

Now, if you were to complain about something else like her general disposition towards Republicans from the moment she was sworn: her awful nonpartisan confirmation speech, or her often crossing of the aisle into red territory, then you would be making fair criticisms. Instead everybody sits here and pretends that theres ome huge financial scheme going on with no evidence at all of corruption.

Because FOX news told you so.

[-] hatorade@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Who the fuck watches Fox News besides boomers?

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Well let me enlighten you, the anti-pelosi posts and comments sound 100% exactly like those fucks at Fox News.

[-] hatorade@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

As we all know, she's perfect and never did anything wrong.

And I don't even have cable, let alone a subscription to the fascist drivel of Fox News. The bastard who invented it should be hanged.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Every election she runs against one of those fascists and I hope with every fiber of my being that she and every other democrat wins. If you can support her primary opponents then great, do so, I will support you, but if your only contribution is to convince people the party is a bunch of crooks, with zero evidence to support it, then I will argue with you.

[-] hatorade@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

The entire party? No.

Her? Yes. Inside trading is illegal, and all of Congress gets away with it

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What insider trade did she make? Because of legislation she helped pass, all of her husband's trades are public, go find one.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

Fucking political nepo babies.

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nancy was a nepo baby, this is a nepo grandbaby. Third gen legacy lmfao.

[-] n4ch1sm0@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

End their political lineage early with booting them off the ballot in a primary election

[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago
[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago

She's 59. She should be thinking about retirement, not running.

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[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 5 points 1 month ago
[-] lemmylump@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Nepobaby politicians, yeah the Kennedy family has fucked us enough we don't need more of the same shit.

[-] DaMummy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Dear leftist in San Francisco, you have a good option. Saikat Chakrabarti. Don't let the nation down. If the people that made Trump, Gulliani, Bloomberg, & Cuomo can deliver, so can you.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But but but tv talking head man said name with more than 3 syllable is scarey jihad?????

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

You gotta admit it's problematic. I'm white as can be, and so is my first and last name, totally black middle name. Think John Tyrone Jones. Did not get a single reply on my resume for 2-months until I removed my middle name. 3 interviews, 2 offers and a job within 2 weeks. (This was 10 years ago.)

To this day I'm surprised Barack Hussein Obama made it all the way to the top. Times have changed drastically, but not that much.

LOL, at least I can pronounce her name. Some Indian names utterly kick my ass. Still, easier than Eastern European names. "I have no idea what those letters represent." At least I can sound out Indian names. :)

[-] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The romanized versions of Indian names rely on more recent standardized transliteration rules.

Eastern European names keep legacy orthographies that are tied to centuries‑old literary traditions, records, and national identities.

I struggle with many Polish names especially.

[-] DaMummy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not gonna lie, I also had to look his name up. I've known about him for almost a decade, and I didn't know how to spell his name. I too believe that it's a racism card that has to be broken, but if a Muslim socialist who's called a communist can do it, I think he might be able to as well. I even think he's a better option than Mamdani.

[-] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

He certainly has more political experience than Mamdani having been AOC's chief of staff.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

This exact thing needs to be repeated everywhere. Well said.

[-] robocall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

As a San Franciscan, I am telling everyone about saikat and how he is the best choice. But I think there are Democrats here that care more about low taxes and niche identity politics, like getting trans kids in sports, more than getting those same kids access to health care, housing, and food. SF is not an easy place for an economic leftist to get elected.

[-] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wait NVM she's not running for her mom's seat, she's running for state senate. I generally don't think family dynasty politics are a good thing, but I also don't know anything about her. I guess that's not quite as infuriating as it could be?

Christine Pelosi passes on bid for retiring mother’s House seat

It is important people know that before she announced she was stepping down, Pelosi was already being challenged by a progressive who has proven he won't just go along with mainstream media spin.

I can't vote for him, but California, this seems like it could be your chance to take a step towards actually getting the control of your state out of the hands of big business "progressives" and "liberals."

AOC's former campaign manager who made CNN so uncomfortable by refusing to drop the subject and asking them to just please acknowledge reality. The host chuckled nervously and cut to a commercial break. Seems like an obvious choice.

CNN Cuts Off Pelosi Primary Challenger’s Discussion of NSPM-7

Saikat Chakrabarti, the progressive organizer who is challenging US Rep. Nancy Pelosi for the House seat she has held since 1987, was met with stone-faced stares and laughter on CNN when he spoke during a panel discussion Monday about the Trump administration national security memo that one journalist said amounts to a “declaration of war” on the president’s political opponents.

“Do you think that’s okay?” he asked the other panelists. “Can you put two and two together about what’s going on here?”

None of the other guests responded, and Seat looked blankly at Chakrabarti before Sidner said the show was going to a commercial break.

“We will answer that question, coming up,” Sidner said, laughing. “We’re going to leave it there for that conversation.”

[-] falynns@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

As a Calfironian, abso-fucking-lutely not. Shit which district?

[-] mercano@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

11th, basically San Francisco and adjacent islands.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

FFS! Just take your vast troves of unethically sourced riches and go away, Pelosis!

(After said riches are properly taxed, of course)

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I thought she was running for her mom's seat but I'm glad she's not. If she wants to run for local to prove herself then go for it. Lots of people follow in parents footsteps and it makes sense.

That said, I fully support progressive Saikat Chakrabarti running for Pelosi's House seat (against Wiener who is an AIPAC candidate...)

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago
[-] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Letting the days go by.

[-] pedz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

The Democrats, left? As someone not living in the US, to me, Democrats are just a light right wing party. At best they might be considered centrists, but left?! Sorry for your "choices".

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

FPTP means de facto 2 party system.

The democraric party is really just an uneasy coalition between many different parties in a big trench coat labeled "Democratic Party", pragmatic leftists are usually in the Democraric party, but not all Democrats are on the "left".

[-] saimen@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

It's crazy that the Republicans are like the one far right party in most European countries and Democrats are like all other parties combined.

[-] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

And just when I thought that bitch would die, here comes another establishment crook to prevent progress of promising folks like Jasmine and AOC. Republicans are disgusting, but dems are almost as bad. Another Pelosi? Yuck!

[-] boaratio@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I'm on your side, but let's not say bitch. There are better words to describe your disdain with Nancy Pelosi.

[-] Turret3857@infosec.pub 1 points 1 month ago

In fact, let's just not say anything if you dont have anything nice to say at all. After all, thats how we beat Trump.

/s

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago

Some Background: History conditions much of our thinking about our political systems and most Western democracies resemble Rome’s in 60 BC when, as Robin Daverman humorously says, three aristocrats–politician Julius Caesar, military hero Pompey and billionaire Crassus–formed a backroom alliance that dominated the elected senate. The oligarchs ensured that proletarii votes changed nothing and that the masses remained invisible unless they rioted or died in one of the elites’ endless civil wars. Two thousand years later, in Britain’s general election of 1784, the son of the First Earl of Chatham and Hester Grenville, sister of the previous Prime Minister George Grenville, and the son of the First Baron Holland and Lady Caroline Lennox, daughter of Second Duke of Richmond, offered voters offered a choice of dukes. Today, in many European countries (even egalitarian Sweden) ‘democracy’ is a mere veneer over powerful feudal aristocracies that still control their economies. American voters recently watched a former president’s wife competing with a former president’s brother being defeated by a billionaire who installed his daughter and son-in-law in important government positions and ensured that, as John Dewey said, “U.S. politics will remain the shadow cast on society by big business as long as power resides in business for private profit through private control of banking, land and industry, reinforced by command of the press and other means of propaganda”. Most Western politicians are related by marriage or wealth and have, like all hereditary classes, lost sympathy with the broad mass of their fellow citizens to the extent that, as American political scientists Martin Gilens and Benjamin Page found, ‘the preferences of the average American appear to have a near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy’: Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens

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