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'The Owl House’ creator Dana Terrace situation with Disney+ positive views on AI generated content (lemmy.ml)

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[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 213 points 1 month ago

Lemme share the tea for anyone who isn’t aware:

Owl house is a show by Dana Terrace that ran on Disney
It slowly developed into big pro-LGBTQ themes
Disney panicked, cancelled the show, claimed it was unpopular despite excellent ratings
Dana Terrace left with a bunch of others to form an independent studio
Their first show (Knights of Guinevere) features a floating amusement park that rains garbage all over the workers below, and robots that have orbs on their heads that produce a silhouette strikingly similar to that of Mickey Mouse

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 43 points 1 month ago

I liked that although Knights of Guinevere was clearly ragging on Disney, it felt like it wasn't just a cathartic trauma dump from Dana Terrace and crew — it was actually being used to say something meaningful. It's a good sign when the pilot episode of a show has such a strong sense of themes.

I'd heard a lot of hype when the pilot was released, but didn't get around to watching it until I randomly thought "I wonder what Dana Terrace is up to nowadays? Hopefully she's working somewhere better than Disney, because surely there must be someone with power out there who recognised how Disney was squandering her potential". When I saw that it was her and some of the Owl House team who made Knights of Guinevere, that caused me to immediately go watch it. The only disappointment was that we don't know when new episodes will be available, but hopefully things will be regular once we do start getting episodes.

[-] MarriedCavelady50@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 month ago

Does anybody know if knights of Guinevere is kid appropriate?

[-] Kovukono@pawb.social 79 points 1 month ago

It absolutely is not. The swearing alone would make it inappropriate for kids, but one of the scenes literally has someone using another person's intestines as a leash. It's an excellent pilot, but not for kids like The Owl House was.

[-] fox@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Not for young kids, there's blood and violence and language and so on

[-] lib1@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

On a scale of 1 to Demon Hunter, what are we talking?

[-] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago

Demon hunter is like a 6 on my scale lol

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Demon Hunter is fairly tame. Maybe the top of the list should be Ninja Scroll or Berserk or Elden Leid or Urotsukidōji.

[-] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah it’s just barely gorier than your standard shonen.

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Elfen Lied? I swear the only thing I remember about that anime was the controversy about its gore and themes.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah, a TON of gore and naked bob/vageen. I loved it when I was a teen but haven’t seen it since. I could do with a rewatch!

[-] lib1@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

For children’s media? I’m curious what a 10 is

[-] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago

Watership Down

[-] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

I was assuming just animation in general. Something like grave of the fireflies or takopi, parasyte etc.

[-] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We only have one episode but so far it's not exactly young kid appropriate... but it's not fully adult animation either. The limited gore is slightly disturbing but technically from something comparable to a robot and while it does have some swearing it's not often.

From my individual perspective as a parent, mine watched it and I'd say around 10 or so, you'd probably be okay. Best practice in my opinion though is always going to be to watch it yourself first and see how you feel.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

Their first show (Knights of Guinevere) features a floating amusement park that rains garbage all over the workers below, and robots that have orbs on their heads that produce a silhouette strikingly similar to that of Mickey Mouse

Oh shit is Knights of Guinevere out?

[-] Kissaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Apparently, episode one/the pilot was released 2025-09-19. No followup episodes yet. Wikipedia, TMDB, Website, Pilot (YouTube, 26 min)

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

was the tweet in regards to something or just genai in general? like was disney+ specifically changing something about owl house and genai? (i agree disney is terrible i was just curious)

[-] Hyperrealism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Is Owl House mainly a kids show? It seems like it.

Same question for Knights of Guinevere? Kids, YA, a bit of both but also interesting for adults?

[-] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Sure, just like disney movies it's made primarily for pubescent humans. Won't stop my ass from watching it.

[-] The2b@lemmy.vg 69 points 1 month ago

What's the context to this?

[-] stray@pawb.social 85 points 1 month ago

My guess is this:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/disney-plus-gen-ai-user-generated-content-1236426135/

Seems they're adding games and some kind of AI TikTok to the service.

[-] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 month ago

gross.

[-] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 month ago

Who the fuck is asking for that?

[-] stray@pawb.social 24 points 1 month ago

People are using AI to create videos of Disney properties or in the style of Disney properties, and corporations other than Disney are making money off that. They want people doing that behavior on their platform, making them money.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

I bet they also hope to ultimately corral all fanart into spaces they directly control.

[-] 3dmvr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

this way they also control the rules for the output

[-] 3dmvr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

tho all ai is easily manipulated, be funny what controversy kids getting past filters makes

[-] datavoid@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

No one, they need a reason to raise subscription prices!

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Shareholders need more profits. So, shareholders.

Once again - blame the Dodge brothers (yes, that Dodge).

[-] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Investors

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[-] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 1 month ago

Loving the irony of posting this to a comm whose branding is literal AI slop 🤭

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Maybe a little, but I think it fits pretty well, if you look at this from a "fuck copyright" angle. It's easy to see the problems with what Disney is doing here and in general.

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[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Knights of Guinevere

https://youtu.be/MCAdbUaMlAE

This pilot is sooo fucking good!

[-] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago

Thank you for sharing this!

The dystopian future Disney would love to have.

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[-] PMP@aussie.zone 26 points 1 month ago

I don't know what The Owl House is. But from what I can gather I can now watch season one for free?

[-] taco@anarchist.nexus 86 points 1 month ago

With piracy, you can watch all seasons of everything for free.

[-] kratoz29@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago

Plex, Stremio, Kodi and Cloudstream my beloved.

[-] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago

Jellyfin, my one true platform

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

They're all on the high seas and they're all excellent.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

Um, for those of us only just now finding out about this situation, what's the AI issue here? Did they pirate some of Dana's work with their AI, or is she inherently opposed to AI and Disney is just using it in general and that's why she's angry?

Full details: some people glean implications from people's posts, I just want to clarify: I don't care about AI, I'm just lost on what's happening here (I only just discovered Dana Terrace exists after only just recently watching the owl house and being told about her other works, so I'm curious about if her stuff is being pirated by Disney via whatever AI stuff they're doing)

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

It's more or less in response to this https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/disney-plus-gen-ai-user-generated-content-1236426135/

[-] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

No clue what Disney is thinking here.

Beyond the implications to artists, people are going to get around any guardrails you can set up and when they do it's going to be on every news outlet and they'll all be saying that Disney officially approved use of its IP on these platforms.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

People will immediately figure out how to make porn or Elsagate-type shit and Disney will get a bunch of angry parents asking why little Timmy was able to make videos of Goofy butchering and eating Donald Duck while completely naked.

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[-] potatobro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 month ago

Massive capitalist media conglomerate is pro ai?? Shocked Pikachu