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'The Owl House’ creator Dana Terrace situation with Disney+ positive views on AI generated content (lemmy.ml)

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[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 214 points 3 months ago

Lemme share the tea for anyone who isn’t aware:

Owl house is a show by Dana Terrace that ran on Disney
It slowly developed into big pro-LGBTQ themes
Disney panicked, cancelled the show, claimed it was unpopular despite excellent ratings
Dana Terrace left with a bunch of others to form an independent studio
Their first show (Knights of Guinevere) features a floating amusement park that rains garbage all over the workers below, and robots that have orbs on their heads that produce a silhouette strikingly similar to that of Mickey Mouse

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 43 points 3 months ago

I liked that although Knights of Guinevere was clearly ragging on Disney, it felt like it wasn't just a cathartic trauma dump from Dana Terrace and crew — it was actually being used to say something meaningful. It's a good sign when the pilot episode of a show has such a strong sense of themes.

I'd heard a lot of hype when the pilot was released, but didn't get around to watching it until I randomly thought "I wonder what Dana Terrace is up to nowadays? Hopefully she's working somewhere better than Disney, because surely there must be someone with power out there who recognised how Disney was squandering her potential". When I saw that it was her and some of the Owl House team who made Knights of Guinevere, that caused me to immediately go watch it. The only disappointment was that we don't know when new episodes will be available, but hopefully things will be regular once we do start getting episodes.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 points 3 months ago

Their first show (Knights of Guinevere) features a floating amusement park that rains garbage all over the workers below, and robots that have orbs on their heads that produce a silhouette strikingly similar to that of Mickey Mouse

Oh shit is Knights of Guinevere out?

[-] Kissaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

Apparently, episode one/the pilot was released 2025-09-19. No followup episodes yet. Wikipedia, TMDB, Website, Pilot (YouTube, 26 min)

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago

was the tweet in regards to something or just genai in general? like was disney+ specifically changing something about owl house and genai? (i agree disney is terrible i was just curious)

[-] Hyperrealism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

Is Owl House mainly a kids show? It seems like it.

Same question for Knights of Guinevere? Kids, YA, a bit of both but also interesting for adults?

[-] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

Sure, just like disney movies it's made primarily for pubescent humans. Won't stop my ass from watching it.

[-] The2b@lemmy.vg 69 points 3 months ago

What's the context to this?

[-] stray@pawb.social 86 points 3 months ago

My guess is this:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/disney-plus-gen-ai-user-generated-content-1236426135/

Seems they're adding games and some kind of AI TikTok to the service.

[-] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 3 months ago

gross.

[-] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 months ago

Who the fuck is asking for that?

[-] stray@pawb.social 24 points 3 months ago

People are using AI to create videos of Disney properties or in the style of Disney properties, and corporations other than Disney are making money off that. They want people doing that behavior on their platform, making them money.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

I bet they also hope to ultimately corral all fanart into spaces they directly control.

[-] 3dmvr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

this way they also control the rules for the output

[-] 3dmvr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

tho all ai is easily manipulated, be funny what controversy kids getting past filters makes

[-] datavoid@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago

No one, they need a reason to raise subscription prices!

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

Shareholders need more profits. So, shareholders.

Once again - blame the Dodge brothers (yes, that Dodge).

[-] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

Investors

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[-] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 3 months ago

Loving the irony of posting this to a comm whose branding is literal AI slop 🤭

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago

Maybe a little, but I think it fits pretty well, if you look at this from a "fuck copyright" angle. It's easy to see the problems with what Disney is doing here and in general.

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[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Knights of Guinevere

https://youtu.be/MCAdbUaMlAE

This pilot is sooo fucking good!

[-] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 months ago

Thank you for sharing this!

The dystopian future Disney would love to have.

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[-] PMP@aussie.zone 26 points 3 months ago

I don't know what The Owl House is. But from what I can gather I can now watch season one for free?

[-] taco@anarchist.nexus 86 points 3 months ago

With piracy, you can watch all seasons of everything for free.

[-] kratoz29@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 months ago

Plex, Stremio, Kodi and Cloudstream my beloved.

[-] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 months ago

Jellyfin, my one true platform

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

They're all on the high seas and they're all excellent.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

Um, for those of us only just now finding out about this situation, what's the AI issue here? Did they pirate some of Dana's work with their AI, or is she inherently opposed to AI and Disney is just using it in general and that's why she's angry?

Full details: some people glean implications from people's posts, I just want to clarify: I don't care about AI, I'm just lost on what's happening here (I only just discovered Dana Terrace exists after only just recently watching the owl house and being told about her other works, so I'm curious about if her stuff is being pirated by Disney via whatever AI stuff they're doing)

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

It's more or less in response to this https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/disney-plus-gen-ai-user-generated-content-1236426135/

[-] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

No clue what Disney is thinking here.

Beyond the implications to artists, people are going to get around any guardrails you can set up and when they do it's going to be on every news outlet and they'll all be saying that Disney officially approved use of its IP on these platforms.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

People will immediately figure out how to make porn or Elsagate-type shit and Disney will get a bunch of angry parents asking why little Timmy was able to make videos of Goofy butchering and eating Donald Duck while completely naked.

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[-] potatobro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 months ago

Massive capitalist media conglomerate is pro ai?? Shocked Pikachu