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lol maybe men should also try to visit therapy some day
Between the prison industrial complex and the healthcare industrial complex, I'm amazed the study has seen the light of day.
I used to sleep with a hammer under my bed. Since he started this medication, I can sleep more easily, and I don’t need to sleep with the hammer anymore.
That is such a sad quote. That they ever thought that was normal or okay.
Unfortunately a common side effect of SSRIs is sexual dysfunction, and many men have a lot of their pride and identity bound up in sex. I ended up quitting escitalopram out of sheer frustration because I was capable of and indeed frequently did get aroused but was unable to relieve it. (not to say domestic abusers would have healthy sex lives to begin with)
Even more prescription drugs, what a surprise. How about trying to find and solve the root of the problems. Lower stress levels, affordable housing, free education and healthcare.... Can't make enough money or slaves from that tho, so just create more pill zombies.
We realised administering medication without addressing these broader psychosocial needs would be failing in our duty of care.
So our study evolved to include a comprehensive support model, combining pharmacotherapy with trauma-informed clinical counselling, proactively following up participants, 24-hour crisis support, helping the men navigate support services and partner safety planning.
There is a balance to be struck here. Yes, solve the root cause of stress and depression, but there are some things that can be solved by medication. It is helpful for a lot of people with ADHD for example.
Not only that, but medication can usually make therapy more approachable and impactful.
Sort of like nature and nurture. You need both.
Adhd is completely unrelated for this post.
The comment I was responding to was more generic than the article.
...which isn't the condition being discussed.
I hear medication is also useful for malaria.
The comment I was responding to was more generic than the article.
I feel you, but yet again you need to take pills. I don't have adhd, that I know of, so I might sound stupid. But, what if instead of taking medication, there would be jobs/functions that actually play into your adhd. Again I'm probaly sounding ignorant. Is the condition the problem, or is the lack of environments that can utilize adhd the problem? Is adhd actually a defunct? Or have we been conditioned to think that because of rigid structures? I like to think of Waldof Schools as an environment where one with adhd could thrive better than in traditional schools. I'd rather find a fitting environment than relying on drugging people up. Reality is not that simple tho....just food for thought.
I understand what you mean, but like... Imagine a pill that lets you feel like a person. That's vyvanse (lisdexamphetamine) for me. My psychiatrist advised me against taking it every day to avoid building up a tolerance, so I don't take it on the weekends and I hate it because I want to feel like a person all the time, not just to get work done. Like yes the world can be more accommodating to to adhd but medicine that makes you feel better isn't something you need to seek to avoid. t's kind of like saying "wow it sucks to have to use crutches to get around on my broken leg" so you just toss them away and limp painfully around on it. Like sure it sucks that you need em but having them is immensely preferable. It's not a perfect solution, it has aide effects, but it's like it regrows the mental equivalent of a limb for me.
what if instead of taking medication, there would be jobs/functions that actually play into your adhd
this is a false dichotomy.
I have a job that plays well with my ADHD (working from home doing software engineering). I worked in this field before I knew I had ADHD (I'm in my late 30s, and only diagnosed a couple years ago).
but having a job that is relatively ADHD-friendly simply is not enough. especially when so many ADHD symptoms affect my personal life and not just my 9-5 job.
I don’t have adhd, that I know of, so I might sound stupid.
honestly - rather than sounding stupid, you just kind of sound like an asshole. listen to yourself:
Can’t make enough money or slaves from that tho, so just create more pill zombies.
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relying on drugging people up
since I take an ADHD medication every day, I guess that makes me a "slave" to pharmaceutical companies or "drugged up" or a "pill zombie" in your estimation?
if I skip medication for a day, that is what makes me feel like a zombie. most ADHD medications are stimulants. before I started medication, I was doing what I now recognize as self-medicating - drinking an absolute fuck-ton of coffee and energy drinks, but still never feeling like I got an energy boost from them.
also - before I was diagnosed with ADHD, I was depressed, at times pretty severely. I tried all the "you don't need antidepressants, you just need X" things people recommend - therapy, better diet, better sleep, more exercise, more outdoor exercise, and so on. none of it worked.
eventually I gave up and asked my doctor for antidepressants (reluctantly, because I had internalized a lot of the "rx drugs for mental health issues are bad" that I think you have as well)
the antidepressants helped, but only partially. eventually I figured out I probably have ADHD and went to a psychiatrist about it. part of what helped me realize that was that of a couple different antidepressants I had tried, the one that helped the most (buproprion) was also used in treating ADHD.
and so in my case, "antidepressants help, but they don't treat the underlying problem" was true - but the underlying problem also needs prescription medication.
What you’re describing would no doubt improve matters.
But fundamentally, we are shirking around a ground truth that the kind of things that stir in male biology aren’t terribly useful in today’s modern world; men biologically need to feel useful in their physicality, to have something to protect and something to provide for.
The terrifying slide towards all the bullshit hyper masculinity or Jordan Peterson style “self improvement” is all a reaction to the fact that, with where we are heading, many of those traits can’t find a natural home in how we’ve structured the world.
This isn't surprising, irritability is a common symptom of depression in men.
Antidepressants are also known to improve the symptoms of intermittent explosive disorder, something that is probably underdiagnosed due to the stigma associated with it.
lol what about woman?
What about women
Women are more likely to harm themselves than others when depressed.
sparked a reduction
Interesting wording.
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