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I've got a better idea: enable downvotes so we can give this post (and others like it) the treatment they deserve.
Seriously, "its [sic] obvious this is a failed experiment" after less than one week? And "a majority of users aren't going to sign up for yet another site"... except for you? Give it a rest.
It would be nice if people asking for the sub to be reopened would tell us what information they actually wanted. Omitting that information doesn't help anyone. In the posts about potentially migrating information from the original sub to here, there was a comment that the Mods were going to go through some of the posts on Reddit and make that information available here while the sub is down.
Instead of just asking whatever they were interested about, they've just been complaining about the protest and having to to use Lemmy. They could have had their answer by now and left the site by now. Someone else may have needed the same information, found it and moved on, or stayed and contributed to some other question. The Mods would know what information people are most interested in and put their time towards working on that.
Just an FYI
Downvotes are disabled only if you made your account on dormi.zone (perhaps others). Mine is on lemmy.world, so...
The issue with that is people on dormi.zone still see only the upvotes, they don't see the downvotes. So to them the OP is +4 but to us on lemmy.world it's -11.
That must be quite upsetting.
It really is. :P
undefined>Seriously, “its [sic] obvious this is a failed experiment” after less than one week?
After the Reddit Admins have said that they will forcefully remove all the moderators of subs that stay dark*
I support the black outs, but when the realistic options are to open up in restricted form, or to have the entire mod team wiped off the page and replaced with random Reddit goons, I would much prefer the former.
It's a protest. It's meant to be inconvenient. Be mad at the people causing the protest, not the protesters.
be realistic man reddit isn't gonna change its mind because r/warframe is inaccessible, this protest is just hurting players
Protests haven't changed their mind?
Reddit before:
Reddit now:
If you want a warframe subreddit back, make your own. No one's stopping you. Go ahead and do all the work to set the sub up and run it.
Otherwise, you're welcome here. You've already made an account. Just contribute instead of complaining.
It's kinda funny how fast Reddit has escalated their threats in under a week. Also, their claims of being "profit driven" while ignoring Devs that were willing to (or at least inquiring about) use the new paid API for 3 months.
The instant tell for me, from the start, is that having Premium didn't let you use 3rd party apps.
Well, aside from the CEO's behavior, anyway.
Why is this whole profit thing a question? Premium is literally "Pay us instead of seeing ads" and it doesn't matter which frontend is using those resources if you've paid for them.
It would have solved all the theoretical problems, but not only didn't reddit offer it, they rejected it. Totally disingenuous. They don't want normal profit and money to run the servers, they want complete control over access to the content we generate, and all the metadata around that.
It's not about reddit changing their minds, it's about getting communities to move to alternatives
which isn't gonna happen in any reasonable amount of time, there are fractions of a fraction of users on this platform, and the outreach is horrendous if you didn't see the post about this place before the subreddit went down chances are you don't/ won't even know it exists
You're here.
if you didn’t see the post about this place
If you go to the sub right now,you will get a link to this place.
not on mobile where most users are
So I see the issue is what the mobile website/app shows you
This is what is visible at https://old.reddit.com/r/Warframe/ on desktop browsers:
And this is what is visible at https://new.reddit.com/r/Warframe/ on desktop browsers:
Then you should complain to Reddit for hiding you useful information to you, simply because doing that it is not useful for them, and not complain here to dormi.zone
Also wait the 30th of June when "where most users are", that is on mobiles apps and not on the mobile website because that one sucks badly, won't be able to see reddit at all, not only one sub
Well, it's a good thing it's not just r/Warframe. IIRC 8k subreddits were a part of the protest at the start and over half are still participating.
Im trying not to be toxic here, even to trolls, but you are making it hard.
users aren’t going to sign up for yet another site
You just did.
bro there is less than 1000 people on this site, thats a minuscule amount compared to the userbase of the reddit, people arent migrating
apparently there's a little more than a 1000 people here https://the-federation.info/platform/73#
That also doesn't include kbin, whose users access a lot of content hosted on Lemmy instances. The population of the reddit-alternative fediverse is even larger, and it'll continue to grow.
Feel free to make a new sub reddit...
bro that causes the exact same problem that this place does
All I hear is someone who wants to be given things as opposed to build them
bro the problem i have with this site is that its has none of the userbase and none of the backlog of the subreddit, creating a new subreddit would have the exact same issues. especially when there is an already existing subreddit that is just being held hostage
The only way that problems will be fixed is by slowly changing. I'm sure if you are just looking for the easy consumption of veggie you will have it soon as reddit is booting mods now. Though once that is done I assume you will want to take a mod position and do the work since you think the current staff are in the wrong.
Seems to me that the real problem is having historical information in a centralized location that can be entirely lost were it to go down. This is a good chance to start planning for that.
It's not about Lemmy. It's about Reddit CEO being asshole.
All of Reddit's content is generated by users. You can see it as if it is just providing a venue. A not even specially fancy venue, seeing as anyone can copy its functionality. And now Reddit comes and makes itself worse to view and moderate.
But hey. I guess Reddit's not profitable enough for such a big venue. No ads in 3rd party apps and ad-blockers for PC. Specially after wanting to dip into image and video hosting.
My opinion is that such a venue should be public. If we had a global government that is :D
i get what you are saying, sure its easy enough to copy the functionality, but what isn't easy to copy is the userbase, reddit isn't just a venue its a venue people are already going to.
I personaly have no problems with the official app (i actually didn't really know about the others until all this) but i get those people who liked the alterative apps feel slighted by the changes, but in this situation i feel like the wants of the many outweigh the wants of the few, I'm not saying this place should be shut down, by all means this place can stay up for those who don't want to use reddit anymore, but that the two places can co-exist.
When the mods leave Reddit because they've lost the tools they need to do their job (for free), you'll see how it impacts you directly. You'll get to see all of the spam and hate speech that they had been dealing with using 3rd party apps and bots.
The point is that it is still the only platform like it. We have to fight for its quality since its life comes 100% from its users.
Or else it all will become like Ticketmaster..
What information are you looking for that can't immediately be found from the official wiki/youtube/asking a question here? A large majority of the posts on Reddit are the same posts about Hemorrhage/Internal Bleeding, Prime Sure Footed/AOE or Incarnon related. You're placing too much value in historical information when updates have made a lot of it inaccurate/outdated due to powercreep. Not to mention how terrible search is on Reddit; you can search for a post by title and still not have it show up in the results page.
Exactly this is the reason I can't go back to the subreddit I have used it for information but playing now with the knowledge I have of the game the subreddit had a very big problem with misinformation.
there have been many times over the last 2 or 3 days that i have tried to find the answer to a question or look for a suggestion or guide, and right there at the top of google is a reddit post with the exact thing i was looking for answered, but i can't see it because its down. instead I have trudge through the forums or wiki to find an answer, when my question could have been answer 5-10 minutes beforehand. I love the wiki i use it constantly, but its not always the best for finding niche things.
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