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Hello, Im kind of new here and trying to get used to Lemmy and I was wondering about if this is true since I am considering donating on this site to support alternative projects but wanted to hear other users before doing so. That being said, what have been your experiences?

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[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 13 points 2 months ago

Technically, yeah. Some instances are run by tin-pot dictators with delusions of godhood, but if you get banned from one of those just switch to another one.

The communities tend to be bubblier, though, since they're small. So if your opinions don't match you'll get shouted down harder.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

The hive is a lot more arrogant here.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago

There is one nice feature that pushes back against hive-mindedness here that Reddit lacks, at least; you can see your upvote and downvote totals rather than just the single aggregate total. Reddit used to be like that years ago but they got rid of it.

That means that if you say something that gets a ton of both downvotes and upvotes you can at least know that there were a significant number of people who liked it it. Over on Reddit saying anything that netted negative karma felt like screaming into the void.

Oh, and the small population means that downvoted comments are still likely easy to see. That helps too.

Still, the Fediverse does feel more strongly bubbled than Reddit does, from my subjective and anecdotal position.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah. Basically, I go to Reddit for independent information. I come here to essentially get yelled for having a nuanced take.

[-] notreallyhere@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago
[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

10 hours ago over in lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world you saw a picture that you rather liked but that was getting a lot of downvotes and you didn't know why. You were told by @breadleyloafsyou@lemmy.zip that "lemmy doesn’t like AI"

Also 10 hours ago over in nostupidquestions@lemmy.world you said "I know its an unpopular opinion, but I don't agree with punching Nazis. It makes them look like a victim, and violence never works." You got a bunch of downvotes for that yourself.

Just a couple of examples of situations where an opinion that was against the consensus view of the community got "punished."

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago

Lemmy.world, so the largest general 'bubble' so to speak. You're on the generalist, relatively moderate instance.

[-] pmk@piefed.ca 10 points 2 months ago

What makes Lemmy different from Reddit is that if some moderator or admin is limiting your freedom of speech, you can run your own instance with your own rules and communities and still be on Lemmy. Reddit can ban you from Reddit, but Lemmy is like a collection of "reddits" that integrate and there is no central authority. To answer your question, as a user you have more freedom to find an instance with rules that align with your values and wishes, and you always have the option to create your own instance, and no one can stop you. If you say things that other people don't want to hear, they might block you, but that doesn't limit your freedom of speech.

[-] Kinkisthebest@lemmy.org 2 points 2 months ago
[-] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 2 months ago

I would add to this that there is significant controversy around the ideological alignment of the lemmy developers, and most people would find the political leanings of the instances they're associated with to be... unpalatable.

I'll leave you to undertake that journey of discovery for yourself, suffice to say that freedom of speech is particularly limited on those instances.

Other software operates in the fediverse and is interoperable with lemmy. For example, myself and the commenter you replied to are registered with piefed servers, while this post is on a lemmy server.

[-] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

If you say things that other people don't want to hear, they might block you, but that doesn't limit your freedom of speech.

So it is like Trump's own 'social' media: I make my own and there I can say all kinds of bull that nobody wants to hear 🤣

[-] pmk@piefed.ca 2 points 2 months ago

In a way, yes, but his site isn't federated with other sites. Truth social is a modified Mastodon instance.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Absolutely.

It's not even a debate.

My 13 year old Reddit account was perma-banned without warning for saying "PUNCH A NAZI". Let's test that out here.

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And that was just my first of probably 30-40 Reddit accounts before I finally said fuck it and came here. I'm not some asshole purposefully posting asshole shit I know I'm going to get banned for. Reddit is just that pathetic.

It's just that I have zero patience for dipshits posting misinformation (as should we all) and I'm not afraid to let them know it. Lemmy gives me that liberty. Thanks Lemmy!!!

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Whoa whoa whoa there.

On Reddit you can say whatever you want.

As long as everyone likes what you say.

Fuck that insipid septic tank to death.

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[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago

short answer: yes

medium answer: depends on what instance you're on

[-] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago

It depends what you mean. Individual instances have their own approach to moderation, which influences what you will see and have access to. Some are more hands off than others. But if your "free speech" is really just looking for a free pass to hate on folk, then you won't have much luck with lemmy. There are instances that allow that, but most other instances block them.

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[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Moderation exists but it is built by the community at large, not corporate overlords. That may mean that harmful speech is removed more aggressively than on corporate sites. On most corporate media sites, bigotry or trolling has to be extremely overt before it is removed. On the other hand, the nature of Lemmy (and the fediverse in general) is that it's a fairly low cost of entry, so there are many different people running many different instances, each with their own governance.

Try it out for a week or two, and if you find it worthwhile enough that you check it daily, I think it's very nice donate to the person/people running your instance. It helps with the cost of running it.

There are no ads, no corporate content, no manipulative algorithm.

We are not perfect, but we're a lot better than most of what's out there. We're a little bit weird, and most of our jokes are about Star Trek or canned produce (for reasons no one understands), but it's a pretty cool place.

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

There are no ads, no corporate content

I wish that were true, but if you haven't seen any, thank your moderators.

[-] kindred@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

And if you have seen any, you can block them and they actually go away.

Instead of a placebo "stop seeing this ad" button.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Absolutely! It's not that corpos don't try. It's just not endorsed or supported by the community and is usually removed swiftly.

[-] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

Well hey, that's why I report any I see to the moderators :D

(And unlike corporate platforms they'll actually parse it lol)

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 months ago

or canned produce (for reasons no one understands)

I think the beans speak for themselves, as does the corn. Does it need any more explaining?

[-] VlerrieBR@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Ive made many comments that go against the general view of the user base. It gets downvoted but never deleted or banned. So I would say its pro free speech.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not in my experience. I've gotten into an argument while specifically pleading against sharing screen-wide, zoomed-in images of common phobias like spiders without a spoiler/NSFW out of basic consideration.

Not only did people go out of their way to misunderstand what I was saying, but I got too many wholly nasty replies, and then got banned for reporting someone else for actually breaking the sub and site-wide rules, and was accused of being a "well-known troll" in the modlog. The fuck?

Needless to say, I got the mod to unban me when I called them out in another thread, and they eventually apologized.

But the knee-jerk reaction, close-mindedness, and immediate hate that I got felt a lot like the prejudice I've seen with homophobia. It's so exhausting to see these prejudices and attitudes so readily prop up in unexpected places, especially in a forum where you'd think people know better.

[-] Az_1@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago

I was using Lemmy And am now on piefed and I can say that Lemmy feels more free from reddit. I find my stuff getting removed less and if it did, the mods would have actual reasons for it rather than reddit mods which removed stuff because they felt like it. There's still the mob mentality with down votes and people still mass down vote things they don't like though

Hell yeah.

Now, will people disagree with you in very emotional ways, downvote without giving any explanation, etc etc.? Sure! But you won't get banned for opposing Western imperialism, for instance. I mean, I talk about God and give people shit for being vacuous, hedonistic and self-centered (because that's at the core of many sociocultural issues) and I haven't been banned, at most I get boo'd. 😅

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[-] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

freedom of speech means the government can't arrest you for speaking up. Neither lemmy nor reddit are the government, so freedom of speech does not apply.

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[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I’d actually consider Lemmy’s freedom of speech to be very similar to the US. Nobody on the network can limit your speech in your own instance but nobody has to platform your terrible speech and everyone is free to ignore your speech and exclude you to just participating on your own instance.

[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Freedom of speech. Yeah, sorta.

Freedom from consequences of your speech. Nope.

[-] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The consequences are getting downvoted sometimes, it barely counts, lol. Bans are very rare from what I've seen, but then again they're rarely necessary.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 2 months ago

lemmy isnt really an organization. its a platform that is then utilized by hundreds of different operators/groups implementing their own rules against much of the same content. there are many of these platforms that all offer differing capabilities and features while sharing a lot of the same content. this network is what we refer to as the fediverse.

the reddit-like side is the threadiverse and is mimicked by platforms like lemmy.

then there is the twitter-like (microblog) side i call the twitterverse and is mimicked by platforms like mastodon.

then you have platforms that can access both sides of the fediverse like piefed and mbin.

https://fedidb.com/

as for censorship...

its the beauty of this network' if one of those servers goes apeshit people can literally just move their 'subreddit' to a different server and tell the og one to fuck right off. this has happened a few times in different ways. users created new subs on other servers and effectively ignored the original, with no one having to make new accounts. it proves the idea.. no one person or company can control the content of the fediverse.

[-] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

You don’t have freedom of speech on any site. Freedom of speech is freedom from the government restricting your speech, not private organizations.

That said, yes. I got banned from Reddit for merely suggesting that people who harm children should face stiffer penalties. I’ve said that many times here and even pissed off some pedophiles here, but never got banned or suspended for it. I think Lemmy takes a bit more of a hands off approach.

Consider: what I say about Reddit isn’t going to affect Reddit at all. But someone like me says bad things about Lemmy, it might have more of an effect. Smaller sites pick their battles more carefully. Bigger sites don’t care.

But even more than that, Lemmy is federated. That means your instance — lemmy.org — can ban you, and you can just join another, like db0 (what I’m on) or hexbear. We’re on different instances but we’re still able to interact.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In some ways yes, and in others no. On Reddit, shitheels like UniversalMonk and all of his sock puppets, along with Dragonfuck would have been banned a long time ago.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 2 months ago

It has just as much freedom as any other platform. It all depends on who the admins and moderators are. We do have better tools of keeping those in check, with the modlog being publicly available tho.

[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Best to donate to another project besides lemmy.

The main dev for lemmy is kind of a shitty person who is not shy about their shitty beleifs.

He supports authoritarians and dictatorships and bans anyone who doesn't excuses the human rights abuses of dictatorships.

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

There is three questions to consider.

One is the site itself. Reddit inc has their own policies that apply site-wide no matter what. Lemmy has no central organization like that, although each individual server operator has their own acceptable use policy for what they allow on their server. This means it is both more free and more confusing- if you want to post potentially objectionable content like porn, there are plenty of servers that allow it or you can always run your own, but you have to make sure you are on one.

Next is individual group moderation. Both Reddit and Lemmy have this, community level moderators that apply whatever standards particular community requires. There is much less of the 'power mod on a power trip' situation than on Reddit currently, at least in my experience. I think some of that is because the overall traffic level is less, so it will be interesting to see what happens as Lemmy grows.

Finally there is culture and self-moderation. You see this on mass market platforms like Instagram and TikTok, where someone will say like they were roped at a party and want to buy a pewpew to unalive themself or some other such bullshit. Unfortunately that brain rot is spreading into Reddit, even though it is not at all required. Fortunately Lemmy seems pretty free of that so far.

[-] BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I would say, Lemmy (or the Fediverse in general is just like real life. You can say anything you want, but don't expect anyone to invite you to their party or talk to you, if you are being an jerk.

Meaning, that noone can ban you from Lemmy for anything you say. But they certainly can ban you from their own instance and / or not federate with an instance, you are on if they don't like what you say.

Also, as a general word of advice, just be a decent, nice person and you'll probably be fine. Online or offline. A major idea of the fediverse is to imagine and be part of a better world and if we engage with each other respectfully, everyone is better off.

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