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[-] BarbedDentalFloss@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 3 weeks ago

Is the killswitch in settings? Because I had to set browser.ml.enable to false in about:config since there was nothing related to it in settings

[-] SmoochyPit@lemmy.ca 37 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, that’d be like the web browser equivalent of going into the Windows registry editor and changing a value in there. Like, it’s there, but unless you already know what you’re looking for, it’s not really an option.

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[-] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 48 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah. I'm still pissed off dev hours get wasted on this shit instead of, idk, HDR support? Persistent pinned tabs? Surround sound audio?

[-] XLE@piefed.social 27 points 3 weeks ago

They say a switch will be built in. There is no switch yet. Which means the deluge of little popups about AI tab grouping and the "look at Perplexity" messages are not going away until these changes are actually released.

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 weeks ago

the killswitch is in about:config

browser.ml.enable
browser.ml.chat.enabled
browser.ml.chat.menu
browser.ml.chat.page
browser.ml.chat.page.footerBadge
browser.ml.chat.page.menuBadge
browser.ml.linkPreview.enabled
browser.ml.pageAssist.enabled
browser.tabs.groups.smart.enabled
browser.tabs.groups.smart.userEnabled
extensions.ml.enabled
browser.search.visualSearch.featureGate
[-] XLE@piefed.social 25 points 3 weeks ago

That's... Not really a switch. If somebody has to go to a secret place, get past a warning sign, and type in a half dozen secret commands... it sounds more like an espionage movie than the flipping of a switch.

And people have already complained that some of those flags don't affect newer ones, which Mozilla keeps adding. We might as well say Microsoft has a setting to turn off telemetry, never mind it's also hidden and it also keeps getting switched back on.

[-] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 weeks ago

This is 12 switches

[-] dgriffith@aussie.zone 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

the killswitch is in about:config

Ah yes, the easiest place to put a kill switch for the average user, as opposed to the complexity of a toggle in settings.

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[-] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 10 points 3 weeks ago

Or you could just use Librewolf

FF build with adblock built in and AI/spyware ripped out

https://LibreWolf.net

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[-] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 21 points 3 weeks ago

"You won this round. But we'll try again tomorrow!"

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[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

then make it an extension.

the fact that they're entertaining ai at all is antithesis to mozilla's mission of an open and environmentally friendly web free from profit.

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[-] Xylight@lemdro.id 20 points 3 weeks ago

Thank god we have a photo of the firefox logo instead of an article

[-] 0ndead@infosec.pub 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Get a new CEO and get back to us

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 weeks ago

This is good enough for me. This means the Firefox code base will not get so integrated with AI features that forkers cannot remove them, and that was my primary concern.

[-] calliope@retrolemmy.com 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Firefox has actually become less stable for me, which is crazy because it was stable for several years.

It had gotten bloated and unstable when Chrome first came out, too.

Why does Mozilla always trend toward mediocrity?

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[-] MolochHorridus@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

The best killswitch is called Librewolf. Another good one is Waferfox.

[-] FatVegan@leminal.space 6 points 3 weeks ago

I just installed librewolf yesterday. Pretty cool, except for the no dark mode thing.

[-] Jack@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago

Anyone know why LibreWolf isn't in the default Debian repositories? I trust Debian - I'm not going to add a repository to get LibreWolf.

Until it's available from a default Debian repo, I'll keep going thru my list of all the garbage I have to go switch off in Settings and about:config every time I install Firefox for someone.

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[-] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago

Opt-in you say? How about RMB click with AI chatbot that you can disable by clicking "Disable AI bot" there? Wasn't opt-in first. And, how is that in aboug:config .ml. list contains tons of entries set to True, rather than False? How in the fuck is it opt-in? It has been opt-out and in order to opt-out most of it, you would need an intermediate/advanced user. There was no toggle switch on a sidebar for normies to see and click. I call BS on this statement.

[-] Arancello@aussie.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago

not sure this is enough for me. Its too late and too large a faux pas to recover from. In my opinion.

[-] FatVegan@leminal.space 5 points 3 weeks ago

For me it's really not. If you don't need to opt out and are proud of your killswitch, just don't put it there for normal people.

[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago
[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 7 points 3 weeks ago
[-] ramenu@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yawn. People have been saying "Screw MozIlla, I'm switching browsers now!"

Nothing new. Just disable the feature like you do with telemetry lol.

[-] optissima@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

I disabled telemetry by switching browsers tho

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[-] Butterbee@beehaw.org 5 points 3 weeks ago
[-] leadpipe@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

Too late, I switched

[-] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Lol, lmao. Still deleting firefox, get fucked. Mozilla betrayed its users trust by choosing to follow this slop trend, and they'll suffer the consequences.

[-] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

& you'll suffer the consequences of monopoly. Wait it out until LadyBird & Servo gets fully tested out

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[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

They really should have come out with a local llm poduct seperate from firefox that is compatible with using it out of box.

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