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Saw some posts about .ml today and thought I'd jump on the bandwagon lol

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[-] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I kinda feel like Lemmy has been much more hostile recently. I don’t know if it’s bots or if I just post bad comments, but it makes me want to go back to just being a lurker.

EDIT: I was waiting for it to happen in this thread. Try to be positive and say something nice about the angry people, get downvotes. Haha. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

It's not just you. People will wilfully misinterpret what I'm saying to their liking, sometimes accusing me of nonsense. Some others will jump in out of nowhere as if I owe them money. I have some asshole in my notifications right now trying to defend another asshole for some reason. The best part is how I'm the one getting downvoted for defending myself and calling them out on it.

[-] Spaniard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is awkward but... I think you owe me money.

The whole karma thing is one of the worst inventions in the internet. The whole upvote if you agree downvote if you don't it's stupid and should be eliminated, no one cares what you vote, if you have something to add reply, if no keep reading, nod your head up and down or left and right and move on.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Oh, I don't care about the points, I'll still reply in whatever manner I like anyway. It's at least some indicator of how your comment comes across to readers. It's just funny that I win the unpopularity contest for simply defending myself while the other person is spewing bullshit.

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[-] Aneb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I said that the same people were bad as this other commenter but I mentioned that maybe instead of hating them, like the bad people do to us, we might want to approach the situation with a little more nuance and uphold empathic viewpoints for everyone not just people who agree with what we agree with and they told me the bad people shouldn't get any sort of empathy because they do bad things.

[-] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, people have been getting a bit touchy and on occasion misinterpret an innocuous comment as an attack.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I've seen a number of accounts that seem to harp on a single topic, grow increasingly adversarial if you dispute or refute anything posted, and eventually just start screaming insults until you block them.

This feels like very old-school early '10s era Reddit, where the Admins don't do more than the high level stuff to keep the site operational, the Mods are as overworked as they are short-tempered, and a handful of power users dictate the content of any given channel by spamming it with whatever media supports their personal grudges.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 week ago

The world sucks right now. People on Lemmy are very aware of what's going on and are rightfully upset and that reflects in general sentiment and interactions.

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[-] rescue_toaster@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

I've been on Lemmy for over a year, where I learned that there's some difference between liberals and leftists, though what those are, I don't know.  I also had never heard the term tankie before Lemmy.  I've never cared to look any of these terms up though.  Probably makes me one of them... 

[-] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

There is a simple test to determine if you're a tankie, specifically.

  1. Did Tiananmen Square happen? Specifically, was it bloody, consented/orchestrated by the CCP leadership, and resulted in the deaths of unarmed civilian protesters?

  2. Was it wrong that it happened?

If both answers are yes, you're not a tankie. You believe that oppressive regimes are evil regardless of which side of the political spectrum it spawns from.

Bonus points if you think Stalin was anything but benevolent. If you think his methods were "tough, but firm," then you're a tankie.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Zwiebel@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oxygen tank, helium tank, water tank, slurry tank,...

[-] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Don't forget sensory deprivation tanks! Oh and nitrous oxide tanks (my personal favorite). You probably shouldn't combine those. Or maybe do, I'm not your dad.

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[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Fish. Not fish.

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[-] falcunculus@jlai.lu 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

In 1700s Europe the people in power were the nobility (the descendants of feudal aristocrats) and the clergy (the church). Their claim to power (legitimacy) was that God willed it, and also they had the biggest army ("ultima ratio regum").

Liberalism arose from "enlightenment thought" and basically said that all humans are equal, therefore state legitimacy comes from the consent of the people, and therefore there should be a set of laws that guarantees everyone's rights and gives everyone a say in how society should be run. Some subjects (such as religion) belong to a "private sphere" that the state has no say in and is therefore beyond politics. State power should be minimal and tightly regulated through mechanisms such as the bill of rights or the separation of powers. This ideology was the foundation of the US independence and the French revolution. The political thinkers most emblematic of it are John Locke and Montesquieu.

The people who gained most from erasing the special place in society of the nobility and the clergy ("abolishing the privileges") were people who were rich but not part of these organisations, that is to say merchants and industrialists. Leftism was born out of the "social question" : everyone having the same rights is cool but the richer in society clearly benefit more while the poorer are unable to make use of these "rights" (for instance having the right to a trial does you no good if you can't afford a lawyer ; or being allowed vacation days is pointless if you can't afford to stop working). It is somewhat at odds with liberalism, because solving the social question might require to break some rules of liberalism (most notably state non-intervention, private property, and separation of powers). The most emblematic political thinker here is Karl Marx.

Some leftists theorized the state should be violently overthrown in order to install themselves as dictators and therefore solve the social question by directly redistributing wealth to the poorest. The most important of these is Lenin, who took over the government of Russia in 1917, turning it into the Soviet Union. However he soon died and passed power to Stalin, who cemented his dictatorship and took over a number of countries through military force. When some of these countries (most notably Hungary in 1956) tried to rebel, the Soviet government sent in their army. Thus "tankie" is an insult ― it means one who excuses the brutality of the Soviet government, or more generally the usage of force by a leftist power. It mostly means the same as "stalinist".

Meanwhile, in the US people were divided on how much state power was acceptable to use. The democratic party used state power to fix the economy during the great depression (Roosevelt), then fight racism during the civil rights era (Johnson) ; today a part of society aligned with the democratic party wishes to use state power to fight sexism and other social issues, therefore being closer to the leftist view. The word "liberal" in US parlance came to mean those people, who today call themselves progressives, and the "liberals" I referred to earlier are sometimes referred to as "classical liberals" in order to avoid confusion.

I hope this clears things up

[-] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago

Liberalism arose from "enlightenment thought" and basically said that all humans are equal, therefore state legitimacy comes from the consent of the people, and therefore there should be a set of laws that guarantees everyone's rights and gives everyone a say in how society should be run

*This was only applicable to western European nations. Liberalism was the moral justification for the enslavement of the world under colonial and neocolonial schemes. Since Europe was said to be the cradle of morality and values, the rest of the world were barbarians who were deemed needing stewarding and European intervention.

Some leftists theorized the state should be violently overthrown in order to install themselves as dictators and therefore solve the social question by directly redistributing wealth to the poorest. The most important of these is Lenin

This is very much not true. Leninism is a theoretical development of Marxism applied to preindustrial nations. Marx theorized that the socialist revolution would stem naturally from developed industrial nations, but Bolsheviks saw the revolutionary potential not only of the industrial workers but also of the peasants. Lenin led a democratic vanguard party until his death, but understood that a socialist project in construction will have interference from capitalists both locally and abroad, and needs state repression of said interference in order to be able to carry out the goal of redistribution of power to the people because capitalists won't just give it away.

Stalin, who cemented his dictatorship and took over a number of countries through military force

I think you misspelled "eliminated fascism from Europe and saved tens of millions of lives from Nazi extermination". It wasn't done personally by Stalin, but by the socialist project of the USSR as a whole.

You did a great job disregarding the colonial history of the west and the implications it had for billions of people in the global south.

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[-] Cypher@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I prefer Kegels exercises over Hegels dialectics

[-] gnutrino@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

What about Hegel exercises or Kegel dialectics though?

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[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

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Disinformation only hinders the cycle. Misinformation if offered in good faith can cause hiccups but perseverance can overcome those and aid all involved.

Argumentation in bad faith helps nobody - it's purely emotional vomit.

[-] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Missing the guy that uses Arch BTW.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

laughs in NixOS

Nix users are to Arch users what Arch users are to everyone else. We tend to be very loud about it.

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Poor arch people. NixOS has a more passionate cult and gentoo is harder to install and FreeBSD is more rarely seen in the wild. The price of AUR

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[-] slothrop@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

For me at least it seems there are way less bots here. I can deal with insufferable asslipped dickheads as long as they're human asslipped dickheads.

Reddit feels like 90% bots accusing bots of being bots.

[-] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago
[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You can never have enough.

[-] trk@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah that's the suck thing about Reddit, all those removed posts. Good thing that doesn't happen here on Lemmy Utopia....

Oh, wait

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

The difference is the Modlog, which means everyone can see the receipts. (For the record, while it might not have been the most tasteful comment, I think that removing it and labeling you an SA apologist is bullshit.)

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The difference is the Modlog, which means everyone can see the receipt

“But the plans were on display…”

“On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”

“That’s the display department.”

“With a flashlight.”

“Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.”

“So had the stairs.”

“But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?”

“Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I mean, I take your point, but compared to Reddit, where there is no record unless a third-party website happens to archive it before the mods remove it, the Modlog is very transparent.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

It's a vast improvement over the black box of Reddit. But a big stretch to claim its transparent in a material sense. Most people don't have the time or background to figure out the what and why of a mod action. And once something is removed, it's dead to time.

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[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

And then there's some other guy talking about Lennox

[-] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

The HVAC system you choose for your home is a big decision.

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

fucking auto correct lol. I'm leaving it.

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