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[-] Aljernon@lemmy.today 3 points 31 minutes ago

Induction burners are of limited utility in some scenarios like restaurants or with certain cuisines (someone else mentioned woks) but 99.9% of residential needs are readily met with an induction burner. In fact, were I live electric coil stoves are the norm in homes anyway and induction is generally considered an improvement over those.

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 27 minutes ago

Their utility isn't limited. Restaurant chefs love them.

We just don't have the infra. Buildings and backbone would need retrofits.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

I love how all these authorities are stacking 21st century requirements on top of 20th century infrastructure.

it's like charging your electric car from your 120 year old knob and tube house.

[-] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 10 points 3 hours ago

Maybe if we go for 1,000,000 pilot programs we can piecemeal sneak ourselves into some kind of real change.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 hours ago

The plan is to do a limited-scale pilot, then do 10,000 apartments once a smooth process doing the upgrade is in place

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 26 minutes ago

Yeah, test cases to feel out doing shit at scale is good cautious practice for not fucking upat scale

[-] baller_w@lemmy.zip 13 points 5 hours ago

I just got an induction cook top and it’s amazing. WAY more efficient than alternatives, better indoor air quality as compared to gas. One problem: can’t cook if the power is out. Good ideas all around.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago

Some gas stoves require electricity to continue operating due to electric safety sensors that shut the stove gas off if the flame goes out. They too would be useless in a power outage because the valves would not open. So it’s not just electric stoves that would be out of luck.

If you have room to store one, a used camp stove and gas cylinder are fine for basics. No need to buy a fancy new one. Or even a gas bbq grill.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Don't forget about the electric ventilation being out if theres a power outage. You don't want to cook with a gas stove indoors with that off.

[-] Rooster326@programming.dev 5 points 4 hours ago

How often does your power go out that this is a major concern?

[-] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

For me, enough for it to be a problem.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

You'd be looking at another 2-3k but you could get battery that can support that (and other things in an outage)

That starts you down the rabbit hole of okay well what about solar panels to charge it in an extended outage...

Also not practical for so many people.

Really a microwave or single plate induction would be better for outage and cheaper battery.

[-] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

I'd consider the health benefits a bigger benefit than the energy savings. Less chance of getting asthma and/or cancer is a pretty big boon.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

And just yesterday people were arguing with me here, on lemmy, that induction is too expensive. There are literally single plate cook tops for like $50! And how expensive do you think the cancer will be?

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago
[-] stray@pawb.social 2 points 1 hour ago

One of the benefits of gas is that you can still use it to prepare food and boil water in the event of a power failure due to natural disasters and extreme weather. A battery backup is an essential part of an emergency kit in areas where this is a reasonable concern.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

I mean I don't have one but while we do have power outages my area does get priority for getting back online because we don't get gas. I actually would love to get a whole unit battery system but there are many things that need renovation and I certainly am not in economic shape to tackle anything atm.

[-] spoopy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Gas works during power outages. Electric doesn't, but batteries help.

Also maybe to help smooth the power load for older homes without high current service.

[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Prevents data loss in the event of power failure.

[-] heftig@beehaw.org 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

It appears the main driver for the replacements are frequent gas service outages. Presumably they didn't want to just replace that with an equivalent vulnerability to blackouts.

Also, a battery can add to the power of a standard outlet, so these stoves can have some serious output even without a 240V connection.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 12 points 9 hours ago

It's also a safety upgrade, as the risk of fires is much diminished.

[-] perestroika@slrpnk.net 15 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

As an added benefit besides the environmental ones - you can't blow out a wall and collapse a house with careless use of an induction cooker. :)

[-] Rooster326@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

All it takes is someone not knowing how to handle a grease fire, and you can make one of those on anything called a stove.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I don't know what you're trying to convey with this.

Also, very unlikely. You need a source of ignition to start a fire. So unless someone is letting grease get so hot that it is ignitable, then lighting a cigarette within inches of the, again, very hot grease. Then the likelihood of starting a grease fire with an induction cooktop is near zero.

[-] eah@programming.dev 2 points 7 hours ago

That's true. I've watched Fight Club.

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