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If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine, though we will switch next week to a new country.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly (biweekly?) update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I love when the fact that I am a “tankie” is continually reinforced and very well explained by real world events

If you’re not a “tankie”, maybe you should do some self-reflection

Woke for radlibs

[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago

UNCRITICAL SUPPORT TO ALL RESISTANCE PARTIES CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN THE HEROIC ANTI-ZIONIST, ANTI-COLONIAL AND ANTI-IMPERIALIST STRUGGLE.

[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Okay, you can say 'killed,' but try and make sure no one believes you."

NYT: "The Hamas-controlled health ministry in Gaza released the names of 6,747 people it said were killed in Israeli strikes." (Slightly different headline in link, but the above is what they have on the front page right now.)

. . .

"How much Hamas, which brooks little dissent within Gaza, influences ministry statistics — or whether it does at all — is unclear."

Fuck offfffffff

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hamas released some tunnel pictures. Notable because this is the first I've seen with vehicles underground.

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[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

IOF has just announced that if they do not nuke Gaza, then Hamas will complete production of their Gundam by the end of the week, which will destabilize the region. Evidence of Gundam production was a gif of an animated Gundam with a green headband and a caption that said “I hate America”.

Anthony Blinken has stated he believes the evidence put forth by the IOF based on highly classified US intelligence.

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[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Matthew Perry apparently bullied/beat up Justin Trudeau when they were kids, so everyone who laughed about his death here owes him an apology.

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[-] CoralMarks@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago

Celtic fans defy club to fly Palestine flags inside stadium

rest of articleFans of Scotland’s Celtic Football Club have defied their club’s directives and waved thousands of Palestine flags during their team’s Champions League match against Atletico Madrid.

Hours before the match at Glasgow’s Celtic Park on Wednesday, the club issued a statement saying both sets of players and coaching staff would wear black armbands “as a show of respect and support for all those affected by the conflict” but told fans to refrain from displaying their support in the stands.

“We ask that banners, flags and symbols relating to the conflict and those countries involved in it are not displayed at Celtic Park at this time,” the club said in its statement.

Video of them singing "You'll never walk alone" in support of Palestine over on reddit-logo
Of course the comments are locked, but cool show of support tho imo.

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[-] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago

People with Palestine Action shutting down weapon factories in the UK are braver than the troops.

Although they should really be burning them to the fucking ground

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[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago

Erdogan is so goddamn funny, in NATO while recognizing Hamas and invoking the damn crusades. Go off watermelon vendor

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[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago
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[-] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago

every gazan, every al jazeera reporter in gaza, unrwa, and every other person in orgs providing medical aid are braver than I will ever be

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago

The IDF used helicopters on the border to provide support for the withdrawal of forces from inside the ambush. A very major event.

Very much sounds like shit went badly and close air support from helicopters was required just to get people the hell out of there.

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[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hundreds of journalists and photographers from media companies all over the world attended today the screening of a film of assorted footage showing the extent of the horrors committed by Hamas.

Footage was taken from numerous sources, including from bodycams worn by the terrorists, dashcams, from emergency rescue personnel and Israeli security service cameras.

What they saw left many of the reporters visibly shocked and disgusted.

https://twitter.com/emanumiller/status/1716434509128765783

https://nitter.net/emanumiller/status/1716434509128765783

And will there be a screening of IOF warcrimes against Palestinians? Or just these latest Hamas ones?

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[-] Flinch@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago

CBS evening news says Iran is "directly facilitating" attacks on US troops and it's all I can do to stop myself from cheering and dancing in this office sicko-pig

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[-] let_me_tank_her@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago

Say the line Bart!

"The mass shooter was known to authorities for months before he did the massacre." amerikkka-clap

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[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago

This article is about how an Irish branch of an Israeli company fired an employee because she said called the Zionist entity a terrorist state: https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2023/10/24/internal-wix-chat-encouraged-staff-to-support-israels-narrative-in-hamas-conflict/

One message in an internal company discussion, set up by a manager in the days after the Hamas attack in southern Israel, encouraged employees to “show Westernity” in social media posts backing Israel, as “unlike the Gazans, we look and live like Europeans or Americans”, it said.

"We look identical to Europeans but we're also indigenous to the Levant btw"

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago

Just now - CNN anchor (Jim Acosta) to military guy: "What do you think? Is this a ground incursion or a preview of coming attractions?"

Fucking ghouls.

[-] CoralMarks@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago

A growing number of reports indicate Israeli forces responsible for Israeli civilian and military deaths following October 7 attack

“The Coordination and Liaison Office was attacked on October 7 together with all the outposts along the division’s line. A large Hamas force seized the adjacent Erez Crossing, which was closed for the Simhat Torah holiday. From there, within minutes and with no resistance, they advanced into the military base, killing and kidnapping the soldiers of the Civil Administration, though a few of them managed to return fire before being hit… Brig. Gen. Rosenfeld entrenched himself in the division’s subterranean war room together with a handful of male and female soldiers, trying desperately to rescue and organize the sector under attack. Many of the soldiers, most of them not combat personnel, were killed or wounded outside. The division was compelled to request an aerial strike against the base itself in order to repulse the terrorists.”

This dry, complimentary description of the high commander, hiding with a few soldiers in an underground bunker and ordering an aerial bombardment of “the base” where his soldiers were fighting against Hamas militants, maybe wounded and maybe taken as prisoners, has a lot to say about the Israeli psyche in these bloody times.

On October 11, Quique Kierszenbaum reported in The Guardian about his tour of Kibbutz Be’eri, a tour organized by the Israeli Army’s propaganda unit. He writes:

“Building after building has been destroyed, whether in the Hamas assault or in the fighting that followed, nearby trees splintered and walls reduced to concrete rubble from where Israeli tanks blasted the Hamas militants where they were hiding. Floors collapsed on floors. Roof beams were tangled and exposed like rib cages.”

In another report in Haaretz in Hebrew (it does not appear to be available in English) on October 11, probably following the same army-guided PR tour, Nir Hasson and Eden Solomon interviewed “Erez, deputy commander of an armored reserve battalion.” He described how he and his tanks unit “fought inside the kibbutz, from house to house, with the tanks.” “We had no choice,” he concludes. Most recently, Nir Hasson returned to Be’eri and interviewed a local resident named Tuval, who was lucky to be away from the kibbutz at the time of the attack but whose partner was killed. In Hasson’s October 20 Haaretz article, he reports:

“His voice trembles when his partner, who was besieged in her home shelter at the time, comes to mind. According to him, only on Monday night and only after the commanders in the field made difficult decisions — including shelling houses with all their occupants inside in order to eliminate the terrorists along with the hostages — did the IDF complete the takeover of the kibbutz. The price was terrible: at least 112 Be’eri people were killed. Others were kidnapped. Yesterday, 11 days after the massacre, the bodies of a mother and her son were discovered in one of the destroyed houses. It is believed that more bodies are still lying in the rubble.”

This quote is important for several reasons; one is because it adds to the understood timeline of events. This testimony would seem to indicate that many Israeli captives were still alive on Monday, October 9, a full two days after the events of Saturday, October 7. While it might be understandable if captives had been killed in the hectic crossfire of an initial Israeli response to the attack on the 7th, this account would seem to indicate that the decision to assault the kibbutz and everyone inside was made as a clear military calculation.

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[-] Zrc@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago
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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago

collective baptism in Gaza, just in case their children are killed they want to be sure that they are baptised.

If any comrades here have Bible-thumping family who bug them, hit them with this snippet of true faith

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago

We're back at the "Israel threatens to bomb a hospital full of people" point in the cycle

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[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago

I genuinely cannot imagine what it would be like to be the sole surviving member of my family.

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[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago

New: Biden's approval rating hits the lowest point within his own party, dipping 11 points w/ Dems according to a new Gallup poll

Among RVs, he's now at 37 percent

https://nitter.net/HCTrudo/status/1717552904708476962#m

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[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago

Genocide joe really has crammed a huge amount of failure into his 4 year term, and he's not even done.

-complete failure on covid, zero change from trump

-embarrassing defeat by the Taliban on the way out. Obviously that was going to happen after any withdrawal, but hanging all American collaborators out to dry was also really something

-complete failure to both avert and win both the military and economic war with Russia. Nordstream sabotage was effective I suppose

-economic sanctions boomerang on the west and destroy a major ally's economy

-China continues its rise unabated. Turns out sanctioning everyone and everything undermines the effectiveness of sanctions

-Israel caught completely napping, brutal defeat straightaway. That fucking crusader state isn't going to last. Let's see how much more he can fuck it up over the next year

Just fucking incredible

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[-] Stoatmilk@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago

They are going to show us footage of a tunnel found under a hospital and people are going to pretend it proves something, as if building a bomb shelter under a public building in an area that gets bombed regularly isn't the most obvious thing to do.

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[-] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 64 points 1 year ago

Russia and China veto US-drafted UNSC resolution backing Israeli offensive

Presstv

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[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

looks like the resistance did pretty well against the IOF raid of Jenin last night

  • Our fighters, with all power and capability, carried out a defensive operation that lasted several hours against the occupation forces and vehicles that advanced on the Al-Hadaf and Wadi Burqin axis with more than 30 jeeps and armored vehicles, including military bulldozers and troop carriers.

  • During this, our fighters engaged in direct clashes, achieving confirmed injuries among the enemy ranks and subjecting them to a barrage of gunfire, explosive devices, and landmines. Also, with the strength of Allah, our fighters carried out sniping operations with appropriate weapons, achieving confirmed injuries in the enemy ranks.

  • Our fighters on the clash axis were reinforced with ammunition, equipment, and support groups according to pre-set plans, which led to the damage of several vehicles and injuries among the soldiers, prompting the enemy to seek air cover to withdraw its forces that fell under the fierceness of our fighters in Saraya Al-Quds.

from https://t.me/PalestineResist/16552

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[-] edge@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago
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[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago

There have been more protests against the slaughter of Gaza in Israel, including blocking roads. This comes after the state has announced its preparing legislation to allow police and military to fire on protesters blocking roads with live rounds.

I've been appalled and concerned at the reaction to the protests here in the UK, with mainstream media regularly framing them as pro-Hamas, pro-terrorism, and antisemitic, politicians calling for total bans, people being assaulted by security staff for displaying Palestinian flags in football grounds, talk of charging protesters with supporting a terrorist organisation etc.

But that's nothing compared to being a tiny minority in fascist Israel, where the government and much of thr population already think you're traitors, and the government is openly planning to murder you for calling for peace. Those people are brave. Not as brave as the Palestinians who somehow face genocidal intentions and extreme violence every day, but still brave as fuck.

[-] sempersigh@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago
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[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is this true? Can anyone from the UK verify? Because if so... you get what you deserve fuckin-deserve

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[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago

I miss the Soviet Union, I 100% bet they would have made the US fuck off and flooded the PFLP with weapons

even just an embargo or something they would have done something unlike the rest of the ones now

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Former Israeli ambassador calls Palestinians "inhuman animals" on Sky News. Says he doesn't know why anyone cares and makes no distinction between Palestinian civilians and combatants.

https://streamable.com/6dkipi

These people scare the fuck out of me.

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[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

thread (nitter alt) about how Hollywood propaganda has completely broken people's brains about US military capabilities

One of the worst moments in the history of military cinema was the final battle in Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. Considering that film was heavily supported by the Pentagon, recent events have put a sinister cast on what is facially just an over-the-top action scene. ... an American general in a high-tech command center sees the battle happening on a drone feed and barks out orders to commence the operation. This causes a US Navy armada (including one destroyer mounting a railgun) to magically appear off the Egyptian coast and launch an amphibious assault with LCACs 110 miles up the Nile Delta to Giza to put US Army tanks on the ground and firing on Megatron in what appears to be literally a couple of minutes of in-universe time.

Of course the good guys win, hooray, it's a fun action set-piece in a lowbrow blockbuster. But here's the thing. This entire sequence was vetted and approved by the Public Affairs Office, and the US military was heavily involved with the production - to the point some of the "special effects" in the battle were live tank gun rounds being fired into the set. And yet, apparently, none of the soldiers involved with this thought for a moment to pump the brakes and point out that all of this was ridiculous. How ridiculous? This is a franchise about transforming robots from outer space and somehow the most unrealistic moment in all five movies doesn't even involve them. That cinematic low point instead falls on a depiction of the United States military teleporting its entire joint force enterprise into battle over the course of a literal phone call. And nobody thought to point this out to Michael Bay, probably, because that was exactly the message the Pentagon wanted to send.

And now we have people on this website assuming that the United States can just handwave the kind of military forces out of thin air needed to deter and, if necessary, defeat Iran. Logistics, basing, access, transit times, force correlations, who cares - we've got this. And that is, unfortunately, exactly in line with the Pentagon's most public messaging about its own capabilities. This has seen the US government repeatedly embarrassed and the US public disappointed in recent years when it turns out that American aircraft take days, carriers take weeks and tanks take months to arrive at the crisis of the hour.

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[-] CoralMarks@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

Iraq pressed to pursue attackers of US forcesThe top US diplomat has urged Iraq to pursue assailants hitting bases housing US forces after a spike in attacks.

Antony Blinken welcomed Prime Minister Mohamed Shia al-Sudani’s condemnation of the attacks on bases where American troops are stationed as part of an international coalition to fight ISIL (ISIS).

Blinken “urged the prime minister to pursue those behind the attacks and fulfill Iraq’s commitment to maintain the security at these installations”.
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Blinken “urged the prime minister to pursue those behind the attacks and fulfill Iraq’s commitment to maintain the security at these installations”.

I thought this line was amazing, like dude, the Iraqis told you to leave some time ago. cat-confused

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