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submitted 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) by atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I’m on board that we need to become independent from big tech. As someone who is fond of the Mac user experience, from choosing hardware to how you navigate through apps, I need a guide to make the switch, so if you know of any great guides for Mac users, I’d greatly appreciate it!

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[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

I’m a long term Mac user and have been periodically playing with Linux because I want to fully switch eventually. (full disclosure I currently still have a MacBook I use as well as a Linux desktop)

I’ve tried Ubuntu, Debian, Elementary, and probably a few others I’ve forgotten, but the first one I’ve really felt is a viable daily driver OS is Bazzite.

I strongly recommend Bazzite, and I personally prefer the Gnome variant.

Bazzite gives you:

  • easy way to update everything in one place
  • “App Store” like application to find most apps you’ll need
  • all the basic drivers and utilities you’ll need out of the box
  • a “Files” application that feels like Finder
  • a “Document Viewer” application that feels like Preview (although it’s not as powerful)
  • a quick search feature that’s a lot like Apple’s Spotlight, and honestly is way more reliable than Spotlight in more recent macOS releases
  • multitouch trackpad gesture support out of the box
  • a Settings app that is pretty straightforward to navigate and controls most of the things you would care about
  • There are other settings apps for finer tweaking. I know that sounds confusing, but Linux people wouldn’t complain if it wasn’t possible to change every detail somehow. Bazzite does a good job of making the important stuff accessible in the main settings app IMO, so you generally don’t have to worry about the deeper options.

Here’s a guide to get you started:

  1. Go here: https://bazzite.gg/
  2. Fill out the dropdowns (Q: What hardware are you using? A: Desktop, Q: Who is the vendor of your primary GPU? A: this depends, it’s important to get it right, ask for help if you are unsure, Q: What desktop environment do you prefer? A: I recommend gnome, but KDE is great too, Q: Do you want Steam Gaming Mode? A: No, I want a traditional desktop experience)
  3. Click the “download Bazzite …” button
  4. Make a USB stick into a bootable Bazzite installer (I recommend using https://etcher.balena.io/)
  5. Boot your computer from the USB stick. How to do this depends on the motherboard, but generally means holding down a key while booting (on a Mac it’s Option, on other computers it’s often something like Del or F2 or F12 or something) This will bring you to a menu that you navigate with keyboard arrows until you find the option to boot from the USB
  6. Follow the steps from the installer. It’s pretty user friendly.

Note that this will delete all data in the USB you use and the drive you install Bazzite on

Once you have installed Bazzite, here are a few programs I’d recommend (these can be found in the “Bazaar”, which is an “App Store” like way to get programs.

  • VLC (like QuickTime in macOS, but honestly VLC is way more powerful)
  • LibreOffice (there are a couple FOSS Office suite options, this is the one I personally recommend)
  • KdenLive (video editing - like iMovie or Final Cut)
  • GIMP (like Adobe Photoshop)
  • Disk Usage Analyzer (like DaisyDisk on Mac), if you’ve ever used that
  • Mailspring (I haven’t found an email app that is quite as nice as Apple’s but Mailspring is the one I’m currently using)

If you have any other questions let me know! I’m happy to help.

[-] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

You should probably start by listing the programs you need. Everything else such as gaming/customization is distro specific.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 15 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Assuming you don't know anything about Linux desktop or server:

  • Be patient.
  • Linux has Desktop Environments, for short "DE" like GNOME and KDE, whose purpose is to provide a graphical interface and useful utilities.
  • Software on Linux is mostly installed through package managers, so you don't search the web for an installer, you search the web if you need to figure out what software you want to install (alternativeto.net is a good place to start if you already know a similar software), then you install it through your package manager. Some applications won't be in your distro's repository, you may want to try installing a flatpak, on KDE you use Discover for that, on GNOME you use GNOME Software. As a last resort you can use AppImages, those are downloaded from the web, ideally from the developer's GitHub or whatever.
  • Linux has excellent hardware support but it's a good idea to do a web search when you're buying new hardware, especially peripherals; manufacturers often don't write drivers for Linux, so the community has to pick up the slack, usually it's no problem, but sometimes it is.
  • Linux users can be very opinionated.... Think with your own head, only you truly understand your needs.
  • The terminal can be scary but it's very useful. Once you're settled in, try to learn a bit about it.
  • Conditional on the previous point: if you have more than one computer, learning ssh can be very useful to control one from the other, exchange small files, etc.
  • ssh and rsync especially are excellent for transferring files safely and without errors, but they're encrypted, so they have overhead. File shares on Linux are mostly NFS, which is complicated and not widespread, or Samba (SMB/CIFS), which is Microsoft's protocol reimplemented, this one is easier and usually integrated in DEs, but it has caveats sometimes, so maybe try to set one up before you need it, it's not fun to deal with in a hurry.
  • Most DEs have system managers to check resource usage and processes (programs), but most people prefer to use terminal utilities like htop, or more recently, the snazzy btop, they can be installed through your package manager.
  • Linux doesn't have drive letters, it has a file structure that starts at "/", different mass storage devices can be mounted in arbitrary locations in this structure. For example your personal files will be under /home/yourusername, this could be the same partition as everything else, or it could be a separate one, or a separate drive. If you have a non-removable drive where you store only let's say Games, you could very well "mount" it under /home/yourusername/Games. This is very useful in some cases, and something that Windows I think implemented but still doesn't use. Removable drives are usually mounted by the DE and end up in /var/run/media or whatever.
[-] tvcvt@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

I landed on KDE and I don’t worry about it matching my Mac desktop, though you certainly could. The thing I miss most is the Finder, oddly. There’s not much in Linux world that gives Miller columns, unfortunately.

I’ll mention that if you like your Mac keyboard, or just want to keep using the familiar shortcuts, check out Toshy. It remaps the keys so that command still does what you expect it to do.

[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 19 points 8 hours ago

Ignore people telling you you have to use GNOME. Use whatever looks good to you. I actually have a KDE Plasma desktop with a Mac-like layout. The DE doesn't matter much though.

[-] sunstoned@lemmus.org 9 points 7 hours ago

The Mac themes on KDE are pretty great, and so is the customizability. KDE makes things very easy to tweak until you like it. GNOME does not.

[-] djdarren@piefed.social 4 points 7 hours ago

I went from Mac to Linux and use Plasma because I really can't get on with GNOME. People go on like its 1:1 to macOS, but it really isn't. GNOME feels so much more restrictive to me.

[-] redditmademedoit@piefed.zip 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

If you're like me, a long time Mac user with a lot of time spent in Windows for work, I think it's really pain free to switch.

I chose Debian -- the distro for boring people. Supposedly, it's the best for stability and compatibility, not the best for cutting edge applications and perhaps slow to get some drivers and what not. Often people suggest alternatives like Mint as user friendly. However, I haven't had a single problem with Debian in terms of compatibility or usability.

For the "Desktop Environment" (DE) -- that which impacts the most whether the system feels more or less like MacOS -- I use the bundled KDE Plasma without modifications. Like on Windows, the most used keyboard shortcuts, by default use Ctrl instead of CMD. If you're at all used to Windows it will take you no time to adjust -- otherwise it may take some rewiring of the brain or rebinding keys. The stock file manager in KDE is nowhere as nice as Finder, but also trivial to adapt to. Overall, KDE Plasma does not really mimic the feel of MacOS at all, but I consider that a pro -- it means that I don't end up frustrated assuming something will working the same way when it doesn't.

I have never been big on using the official App Store on MacOS, but if you are, that's going to be an adjustment. Each system comes with something similar to the App Store, but they generally don't come with the same range of apps (e.g. Debian/KDE has an app called Discover which has a really narrow range of apps). However, as you're stated goal is to break free from big tech, getting to know the different ways of installing apps will be a rewarding experience (and rather straight forward, most of the time).

Speaking about apps, I think one of the pains you should prepare yourself for if you decide to stick mostly with apps that are "Free Open-Source Software" (FOSS), the degree of polish -- particularly in terms of investment in GUI/UX -- will generally be considerably lower than many paid apps you might be used to, particularly premium Apple apps (e.g. Final Cut).

As for hardware, I don't really have any valuable pointers. I think losing out on the great synergies between Apple's excellently built hardware and very optimized software is a big trade off. But depending on what you're gunning for, you will have a lot more options and potentially at a better price/performance point.

[-] fakasad68@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

typo, i think it's desktop environment not desktop engine

[-] redditmademedoit@piefed.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

Thanks, corrected!

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago

Gnome Desktop will be the most familiar UI and workflow for you. Other than that, just take note of your existing software stack, and check to see which will also have Linux builds to install.

[-] madnificent@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Really depends on what is considered nice about MacOS. Just had a new on-boarding with someone who really liked their Mac keybindings and it seems getting those dialed in is nicer (easier? better?) on KDE. I'd also generally gravitate towards Gnome for Mac users though.

As a piece of advice for OP: Accept the use of keybindings over the touchpad. Mac has done a great job and I have not seen a Linux laptop/distro combination that nails it. Search for the pain-points after switching and ask about it (kindly) on a community like this.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

You must be using some junk touchpads then. I have two that work just as they would on a Mac. No issues.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Even the gestures? Mac’s gesturing system for the UI and all native and most non native apps is why I stay with it.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

The MacOS specific ones like zooming out to show all active windows in a workspace, or flipping to the next app aren't there because, well...that's MacOS specific.

All the more universal ones like pinch to zoom, scrolling...etc are all there. I actually used an Apple TouchPad for years just because I had it around. Worked fine.

You can also run a simple plugin in Gnome to map custom gestures to whatever you want if needed.

[-] NewOldGuard@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago

For keybinds, there is the project Toshy which redirects keys to emulate Mac bindings. It has some issues but works pretty well in my experience

[-] djdarren@piefed.social 3 points 6 hours ago

Depending on how all-in on the Apple you are, there will be a few main sticking points for you.

1: Gestures If you use a trackpad, you're going to have to adjust to a more limited set of gesture commands. The same with button mapping on a mouse. You'll almost certainly need to learn new ways to move around your desktops.

2: PDFs Preview is a godsend to Mac users. Preview does everything bar editing PDFs. You will no longer have Preview. You'll need to find three or four applications that replicate its features. And all of them will feel a bit lacking in comparison.

3: Apple Music Apple don't believe in Linux, so if you use AM and wish to continue listening to lossless on your computer, you're going to have to either use WinBoat to run a Windows VM into which you can install AM, or you're going to need to use Waydroid in order to run the Android version of the AM app. Neither is great, but both (mostly) work.

But ultimately it is worth it. I use my Mac much less than I used to, and my iPad almost not at all now.

[-] atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

This is really useful. I don’t use Apple Music, but the gestures and preview do sound like something to get used to. Why is there no third party preview? Seems like a pretty basic program to have.

[-] Sneptaur@pawb.social 8 points 9 hours ago

There are a lot of differences and a lot of similarities between the operating systems here. It will take you time to get used to no matter what you do. Start by swapping your apps on your existing Mac, trade out any apps that you know won't work on Linux with apps that do. That way, you spend some time in your existing environment with the new apps you're going to need going forward.

Next, make sure to test out your peripherals in a live environment. Does everything you use with your computer work correctly? If not, find out why. See if you can mitigate it, or if you'll need to replace stuff.

Finally, be willing to experiment. I know others in this thread will recommend various desktop environments and distributions to you. Try many of them. GNOME is good and simple out of the box, feels kinda mac-like, but if you want to completely replicate the functionality of macOS, KDE Plasma has more options for that like global menus and the file management app (Dolphin) is incredibly extensible and customizable.

Try to have fun with it, and don't give up. It takes time to learn a new way of working, and you will likely have frustrations along the way, but ultimately the goal is to learn and figure out what works best for your needs.

[-] atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

This is really good advice thank you! Someone mentioned using a usb to test. How can I test? It seems like quite a hassle to set it all up just to find out it’s not my thing.

[-] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Look into a distro that you might like, and find a "live usb" of it, often it is the installation media itself. How it works is basically it is a linux already installed on a disk image you transfer to the usb, and tell the computer to boot from it. Instructions on all this usually comes with the live usb media. Then you usually get a "try it out" or "install" option, or it just leaves you at a pre-configured desktop. Click around, install stuff, browse the web, get a feel for it.

[-] sunstoned@lemmus.org 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

~~Here's a quick how to from Learn Linux TV~~

Wait a minute. Are you wanting to get a different computer? Or boot Linux on your Mac?

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

To add to all the other answers about what to use and whatnot: try a few distros and desktops out by putting them on a flash drive and booting from the flash drive (this is the same process for typical installations)

Distro, or who the linux based OS is built, updated, and distributed by, mostly matters long term, but something that will keep working and be stable (in the colloquial sense, not technical sense like for servers), and that has a friendly and welcoming community, are definitely things to look for. Mint and ubuntu both have stellar reputations in both of these regards, though many folks (including me) have issues with decisions being made by the ubuntu folks these days. Fedora is pretty stable but has less of a big community with support for new people, and manjaro has a lot of newer users and is built around serving newer linux users, but the project is sometimes run in an awkward way that can cause issues if you're not choosing to manage your packages with intentionality (thats what I hear anyway). Debian is rock solid, and I dont know much about the community, but the versions of software available in the repos may be old unless you're installing a flatpak

Keep in mind, not all distros will support every desktop, so you may find your chosen desktop isnt available on the distro you find most interesting. You can theoretically install whatever desktop on whatever distro, but as a new user I dont reccomend doing this.

Definitely try out a few different desktops. "Desktop environments" are bundles of software that make up the desktop graphical user interface, and will make a big difference in the look and feel, and general user experience that you have on linux. There are a bunch of options- the two biggest projects are GNOME and Kde plasma. Gnome has a reputation for being more mac-like out of the box and has very specific workflows and usage patterns, and kde, more windows like and flexible to what the user wants. But both are customizable. Kde has lots of built in settings and options, gnome offers very few, but supports user made extensions that change the desktops look and behavior. Give both a try and try out the customizations for each (play with kde settings, see if you can make it more what you want. Install some gnome extensions, see what the options look like). Cinnamon is another desktop thats very windows-like but has a great user experience. Xfce is a well run project but predominantly aimed at being lightweight so it runs well on older hardware, you're less likely to be in its target demographic

[-] SrMono@feddit.org 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

For a nice experience I would start with elementary OS or Linux mint.

The first will please your aesthetic from the get go.

[-] atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 hours ago

I hear a lot of people say stuff like that “start with”. But is it so easy to switch of you picked one? Like don’t you have to get all your files in an external drive and delete a full computer before you can reinstall a different disto?

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

It’s not easy to switch, but it can be made easier if you keep all your important files in one place.

[-] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

You don't have to switch if you like what you found. Some people distro hop, some stay on the same one their whole life.

Too answer your question: Keeping your data is not hard and you should have a backup. Keeping your configuration/customization is a different story; if you don't like the defaults, the tweaking is practically lost when you swap distros or DEs.

Too address the elefant in the room: Those beginner-friendly distros (e.g. Mint, Ubuntu, ...) that you "start with" are actual full-fledged Linux distros under the hood. They usually try to create a UI that's easier to navigate for someone switching from Windows (rarely from mac) and have a friendly community. They are opionated on some design choices but otherwise 99% identical to the underlying generic purpose distro.

Ubuntu is based on Debian. Mint is based on Ubuntu. Most Everything build for Debian will also work on Ubuntu or Mint. If you like Mint and it works on your hardware, there's no objective need to switch to Debian (or Arch or Gentoo) ever. People switch as a learning exercise or for bragging rights.

The main purpose of trying different distro is to find your style. Experts could probably configure Debian to look and behave just like Mint, but it's easier and more consistent if you get it all of the box.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Yes. But you don't have to switch.

People say "start" with simpler distros because if you go past just using it as-is, and grow to understand linux closer to the system level, you'll likely eventually end up preferring something more complex.

There's little point to starting at the deep end, like arch, since you don't know whether you'll end up staying in the shallows yet. Either way, it's the start. It can also be the end, but that is unknowable.

[-] fogrye@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 hours ago

If you seek that kind of advice don’t better don’t format your drive with all of your data. Try installing distro of your choice on some old hardware you have and use it occasionally and understand if linux in general and specific distro in particular is what you want.

[-] SrMono@feddit.org 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

For a start you would have a bootable pen drive, just to take a look around. If a certain distro doesn't suit you, don't install it. After installation, the hurdles get bigger, just as you say.

The two mentioned distros are already tailored towards easy use, but there are many ways to skin the cat. The distributions work with different desktop managers, each with different philosophies. On some distro you can choose or change the desktop manager afterwards (and potentially break your system).

Take the popular cachyOS. Its most useable desktop manager is KDE Plasma, but it has support for a several others (17). Some better, some worse.

Here a tier list of desktop environments showing some desktop manager und Debian 13.

EDIT: Keep in mind, that you can further customize and tailor desktop environments to your needs.

[-] timroerstroem@feddit.dk 3 points 9 hours ago

You would have to do that, yes. In all likelihood, you'll be fine with just picking a distro. As the Señor says, elementary has a Mac-like aesthetic.

I have no experience with that distro myself, but I'd imagine that it allows running a live environment directly from the USB, that will let you test it without installing so you can see if everything that you need to work will work, and also whether you actually like it (running a live environment from a USB will be slower than if you had it installed, so don't base your "liking it" off of that).

[-] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The thing is, when you reach that point, you'll be doing that because you want to. The reason it's "starts with" is because your desire to try that next distro now that you get the fundamentals will be greater than your distain for doing a backup and wipe.

This is as much of an assurance as it is a warning.

[-] Feyd@programming.dev 1 points 8 hours ago

Many distros you don't even have to do anything but install packages to switch desktop environments, which are really what people are recommending when they're trying to say what is similar to mac

[-] atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Ok so what I understand is that the disto has more to do with compatibilities, optimization and updates whole desktop environment is more the UX and user experience?

[-] Feyd@programming.dev 2 points 7 hours ago

Yeah the DE is your desktop, launcher, window manager, setting manager etc. So Gnome, KDE Plasma, mutter, etc. It is what most people will notice.

The distro is basically a package manager and assembly of packages. So if you were to use ubuntu for instance, there is a default DE, but you'll notice there are a bunch of "flavors" available. These are mostly different desktop environments and default applications, but all of the stuff in any of them are in the package lists and available to install regardless of flavor.

The main differences between distros are

  • release cadence
    • fixed. They release a major update on a regular schedule and only backport bug fixes and security patches
    • rolling. One package set that every installation always updates to latest
  • package management
    • some are able to manage packages purely by GUI and some you must use the command line (or if you can use GUI at some point you might have to fall back because it doesn't have first class support)
[-] Cherry@piefed.social 1 points 6 hours ago

Jumped recently. I was old Mac. It reminds me of when Mac used to be basic. I like it. Less fussy…if you want it to be.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Get a usb drive and try out different distros before committing. With Linux you can make use of a feature called LiveUSB which allows you to boot from USB a full usable operating system without changing anything in your filesystem.

The steps here should work for any distro not just Ubuntu. https://documentation.ubuntu.com/desktop/en/latest/how-to/create-a-bootable-usb-stick/

Once created, restart your mac and hold alt when you hear the chime and select the USB drive from the boot screen. Spend sometime in the new OS, get a feel for it, and if you like it you can install, if not, restart and you will be back in macOS as if nothing happened.

[-] oeuf@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago

You should look at getting a laptop from Starlabs with Ubuntu preinstalled on it.

[-] twinnie@feddit.uk 3 points 9 hours ago

For someone coming from Mac you might find Pop OS more familiar.

[-] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 hours ago

I grew up using macos, still use it on my work laptop, and use elementary os on my home machine. For the most part, it's great. I like

  • The intuitive UX and the clean, consistent and beautiful UI
  • Good default apps and settings
  • Flatpak out of the box, no snap bullshit.
  • Generally you can get away with quite a bit without resorting to the terminal

Unfortuntalely, there are a few big issues with it, mostly due to the small number of developers

  • Updating the OS to a new major version (that they release every 1-2 years) is a hassle, there is no direct way to do distro-update like on ubuntu for example
  • The mail and calendar apps don't support Oauth, and by now, google doesn't seem to support password+IMAP anymore. So no google calendar or mail integration. Also a hassle to set up anything that uses Oauth by default.

If those aren't dealbreakers, I can recommend eos. But do check out the other options as well.

[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

Try Gnome. It looks like MacOS.

Also, try yabai, sketchybar and skhd on your Mac. And try poking around in the Mac terminal, since MacOS is Unix-like (it's even Unix certified, in fact), just like Linux.

[-] ashx64@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

They share a few small visual elements, like a top panel and "dock", but using them are completely different experiences.

MacOS is in reality closer to KDE than Gnome. That being said, almost every Linux desktop environment and Windows are closer to each other than MacOS. MacOS is quirky in comparison to all of them.

[-] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

I think you just have to make the jump and install a distro on your computer while accepting that it’s not because you don’t like the first distro that all of them are the same.

Once the first step is done and your old OS isn’t around anymore, you’ll be forced to find something suited to your needs.

Do you plan on installing Linux on your Mac? If it’s Intel based it’s easy, but if it’s an M model your choices are more restricted..

[-] atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

I’m planning on getting a new laptop, which of course is a whole other ball game.

[-] doodoo_wizard@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 hours ago

Don’t.

You like the user experience, you like the hardware, you don’t need to switch to linux to become independent from big tech.

Even if you needed to switch your operating system, what computer are you gonna use it on that isn’t under the control of big tech (however you choose to define that)?

Even if you had a computer you understood the hardware of and ordered in a group buy from a small manufacturer, and therefore wasn’t under the control of big tech, the linux operating system has thousands of core components maintained or developed by people who are in the employ of big tech to do just that! Are you really out from under the thumb of big tech when they’re paying the people that do the lions share of work in key components of your operating system who just so happen to always seem to make choices in that role which align with their bosses needs?

What might be better than switching from mac to linux would be considering exactly what big tech you’re trying to get away from and why, then doing so on the system you already understand and feel comfortable with.

[-] python@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I recently switched my parents old Macbook with a random Dell Notebook running ZorinOS and they're pretty happy with it so far! So maybe that could be an option for you? Their guides are very easy to follow as well - https://help.zorin.com/

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