You dodged a bullet there.
Like a 950 caliber bullet. Depending on the work, a company like that is going to be just as effective as making someone go splat.
They don't like talking about it because every interested candidate becomes uninterested immediately after hearing the pay sucks, the hours suck, and the culture is awful.
Would be nice to name drop these kinds of assholes.
I would love for them to not find a single worker to fill this position and people gradually leaving until it's just a husk with the C-suite having to do everything or the company just disappearing
I honestly just assume its fake when they dont name drop. I have no doubt it happens, but its just rage bait without any context.
Based on a true story
Don't doubt that each of those things were used by various companies to not hire people, but listing them all at once in a rejection letter that no companies send anymore is a bit too on the nose.
It may be, but key words are "it happens".
This is anecdotal, but when I got my very first job interview at a somewhat big local company back when I was 19, the interviewer was apparently very eager to hire me, until I mentioned the salary topic, then her face changed from excited to like "rude, we're not hiring this guy" almost immediately.
I would name drop them if I remembered the company name.
They ghosted me tho
I would love for them to not find a single worker to fill this position
They'll just ask the government for more immigrant visas since no Americans will work for them. Sort of like US farm labor operates today.
As a manager I’ll give you their thought process and from a mangers perspective it makes sense (albeit still wrong) and you DEFINITELY wouldn’t say it to the applicant.
Managers want robots that do their job and don’t call them out on their bullshit or question the decisions they make or their salary. That way they don’t have to give raises or address issues. When you ask questions on the interview that lead them to believe you are educated and stand up for yourself they don’t want to introduce you into their work bubble of other robots or it would start a rebellion. Hope this helps.
As a manager, I disagree.
Anyone that isn't asking basic shit about the job is either an idiot or dishonest and I don't want them on my team. Provide honest answers to these questions immediately, ESPECIALLY work culture and responsibilities. Salary may not be appropriate at this specific stage in the interview, but if it's the third round or later, it needs to be discussed.
EDIT: depends what type of team you manage I think...
Third round lmao what you guys hiring for, président ?
Engineering
Fair enough, long set are the days when a diploma meant something and now we have to ask interviewers which labubus they own type shit
In my experience each round is interviewing with different people, or different teams. It's not three rounds with one person / team.
I'm a manager and I do not think like that at all. I want people with the right skillset who can do their job well without babysitting, and I strive to pay them as much I can with the budget.
It's so fucking hard to find someone who's not a fucking idiot that if I get one I'll do everything I can to make sure they stay.
Sounds like you had some shitty managers. That’s about as dumb as saying that all people interviewing are lazy people with no work ethics and just want to do nothing and get paid.
Based on this screenshot the candidate dodged a bullet because this particular manager/company sounds terrible.
I had a company back in 2012 refuse to present even a range of compensation before they flew me 1200 miles to an interview except to say that it "wasn't bad."
I didn't take the interview.
I would have taken the free flight and saw the sights and then just left without appearing at the interview.
I think they were going to reimburse me after.
Well thats even stupider, I'll bet they would have never gave you a dime even if they did hire you.
I always hear “very competitive”, which in my experience means “nearly minimum wage”.
well in a way, they're competing
I’d say they answered the question about the culture.
And the salary
Salary: no
"So umm hows the weather?"
Im sorry $user But we dont discuss things on this ethereal plane during the interviewing process.
"How are baby's made?"
I hate that OP blacked out the company. Name and shame these fucks.
I feel like people block out names way to often now. I they felt comfortable enough to send this email, I'm sure they'd feel comfortable with it being shared with others, right?
It's not us, it's you.
That's fucking bullshit. 20 years ago, those were just basic things to ask when they say "Do you have any questions for us?" And applicants were actively encouraged to do so by jobs coaches.
If they don't want people to negotiate their contracts, they should say "Requirements: willing to be exploited and blindly obedient; push-overs preferred."
It's common practice now. I've been interviewing for over 4 months, and ask these kinds of questions every time (except for the salary). Over a dozen interviews, and not once has there been even a hint of relucrance to respond.
Op dodged a crap company
You shouldn't have to ask about the salary because that should have been in the job advertisement. Why would anyone even apply for a job if they don't know what it pays?
You don't ask about salary? I hope that means you had that discussion before the interview and not that you're just hoping it's worth your time
I like to ask how much toilet paper can I steal before I get in trouble.
Under appreciated litmus test right here!
Y'all want that 1/2 ply shit?
Is it common these days for employers to give this type of feedback to rejected candidates? I used to be happy when I got any reaction at all and didn't just have to eventually figure they weren't going to get back to me.
This is why it's fake.
Employers never give feedback ever period.
Something something fake liability concerns
No.
"you're not allowed to discuss any potential red flags with this position!"
"Summarize this email" Run and don't look back.
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