Title is a reference to a recent Semi-Ramblomatic video by Yahtzee.
I'm not going back through the ZP archives to find it but Yahtzee once likened FPS to point-and-click games where the only command is "use gun on man"
It's a funny joke I wish a better person made.
What's wrong with Croshaw?
He doesn’t use any punctuation.
He does now that he's gone fully ramblomatic.
Can't say I've actually seen anyone complaining about Stardew Valley or Animal Crossing for those reasons, seems like everyone loves Stardew, and AC complaints are just about nintendo's content pipeline being sparse on release.
That said, if people are complaining about "doing tasks" in Stardew and AC, I'd imagine that it's because it's mostly things you can do IRL. I can decorate my place or plant flowers or talk to other people in real life. I can't go kill bad guys in real life. In a way casual cozy lifesim games make me feel self-conscious, that instead of improving my virtual life, I could instead be doing this same stuff for my real life. Games that are more detached from real life don't seem as likely to trigger this guilt.
Also I'm fully expecting someone to respond that owning a house/etc is a fantasy, which is the fantastical appeal of Stardew/AC.
Just this week I was with friends, many genders, all of us play Stardew Valley and we all joked and lamented about how task oriented it is, like a list of daily chores. It is ok to acknowledge it and also enjoy it.
Mind you, doing things you could do in real life might actually be a major part of the appeal.
Sure, in real life I could grow quality potatoes or power wash a house or drive a truck to a city that's 400 kilometers away. And I'd get a little bit of dopamine from a job well done – after hours, days, or even months of work. Plus what's needed to acquire the tools/land/licence necessary to do it in the first place.
Or I play Euro Wash Farm Valley Simulator 2026 and finish the job within half an hour of gameplay that's just challenging enough for me to feel that I actually did something. While possibly interacting with a cast of charming and/or interesting people along the way.
There's a reason why job simulators are such a popular genre. They take the interesting bits from a job, drop the tedious parts, and greatly accelerate the whole affair. They're like working in real life but better.
Except Desert Bus, of course. That one very deliberately isn't.
To play devil's advocate, for those types I suppose it's that there's active resistance to you accomplishing the (violent) task, as opposed to more relaxed games where that may not be the case. And if you want your tasks to task you, that's fine, but like, let other people enjoy what they like, it doesn't affect you whatsoever.
let other people enjoy what they like, it doesn't affect you whatsoever.
That's not how social insecurity works. Every waking moment should be spent worrying about how other people percieve you, then taking actions on that to prove to them that you're fine, even though they dgaf or even notice you. You can't be the main character if you don't.
A comment that has nuance and doesn't pointlessly segregate people for ragebait or teenager tier cliquing? Get tf off this site with that
It's talking about skill based games vs "casual" games. I LOVE Stardew Valley, but I'm not going to pretend it takes a lot of skill.
Nah, pressing →→→BB 20 times to water plants every day in stardew valley is actually the same as nailing an aerial in rocket league because 'they're both tasks.' The only difference between games is the aesthetics and you're a worse person if you like the game with the aesthetics of warfare more than the one about homesteading.
Truly a braindead take but 'haha gamer bros mad.'
Just yet another rage bait post by bots that are coming in.
And the original post is just misandry rage bait on top of it, lol men violent
That fishing minigame tho...
No, I have literally never heard men criticize Animal Crossing or Star Dew Valley for any reason, really. But I guess they do in your head while you shower.
This is another fallacy men vs women BS attention seeking, ragebait post
It's not men vs women
It's people who only play COD and FIFA on consoles vs more involved and open-minded gamers
Sex has nothing to do with this but making it about sex is more headline-worthy...
I have heard a lot of men say that it's boring/pointless (but shoot thing with gun isn't)
It's some capital G Gamer take from the same people hating on walking sims, has been a while since I've seen that though. Loud fringe idiots, as usual.
Fuck the generalization but I highly suspect it's mostly just a tumblr thing/kinda general meme to lead with will...
Both are fun. In the same year I put 100hrs into Oblivion cracking High Elf skulls, and plenty sawing Locusts in half in Gears of War, shooting endless waves of bots in GRAW, literally railroad spiking people to walls in FEAR, and bustin caps in fools in Saints Row;
I also became world Table Tennis champion in Rockstar Presents Table Tennis and put ~70hrs into making pinatas have sex and growing plants in Viva Pinata.
I can enjoy two things.
Factorio.
You just do tasks to do more tasks.
Fix a bottleneck here, fix one there. Bam 10 hours gone.
Ok lets progress. Let's make sth. new, ok what do I need for that thing.
This, this and that and this and that. Let me quickly setup a production line for that.
Bam 20 hours gone.
All I am doing is being a slave of the factory
There is only 1 task in Factorio, the factory mus grow.
Task 2 is killing trees
This has the same energy as that post that's "Red Dead Redemption is just Barbie's Horse Adventure with violence”.
Yeah, that’s how I played with Barbies as a kid, of course that’s what I want in a video game as well. Who doesn’t want to dress up their cowboy before going bang bang?
Who doesn’t want to dress up their cowboy before going bang bang?
I somehow read this as "who doesn't want to dress up their cowboy before a gang bang" and honestly.... It only slightly sounded odd.
I would also want to dress them up for such a special occasion!
Also you literally kill things in Stardew Valley
I personally like action RPGs like Fallout NV and Outer Worlds, I mean yeah shooting people is a task but its a task to get to the fun part which is the funny (or cool) dialogue choices and seeing the story progress.
I mean one of the good parts of Stardew is you can play it a bunch of different ways and it doesn't place a lot of restrictions on you.
In the cave exploration parts you can basically play it like a full-on combat simulator.
You can also play it like a fishing game, a dating sim, and several other things. Or you can also completely ignore certain parts of the game if you want.
Stardew Valley lets me feel like that I have a satisfying job, when real corporations would abuse and discard me at their convenience. It is quite the power fantasy, being a productive member of humanity without having to sacrifice myself.
Receive the full value of your labor? It's absolutely criminal.
Tbf you sell stuff via the box which is presumably skimmed for some amount of profit (same in most games in the genre) so it's not quite a socialist utopia. Some of them are damn close though.
Plant 28 apple trees (world of Warcraft) 🤑🤑🤑
Plant 28 apple trees (stardew valley) 😴😴😴
Plant 28 apple trees (real life) 😱😱😱
I mean, Factorio is just work disguised as a video game. Doesn't make it any less fun. It's work that I choose to do rather than work that I have to do.
If Barbie's Horse Adventure had violence, I'd probably try it.
I play GAMES so that I can accomplish TASKS without physical EFFORT. Get with it, "gAmErS", this is peak living. And SOMEtimes I don't even have ENERGY for fake video game TASKS. Your move, BITCh
Why even make this about gender at all?
It's kind of insulting to men who like games like stardew valley and animal crossing. What, are we not man enough because we don't fill our free time with simulated blood and gore?
Man I love Yahtzee. I obviously don’t always agree with him, but Extra Punctuation/Semi-Ramblomatic are amazing.
Semi-Ramblomatic is his best stuff imo.
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