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Remember: Companies don't learn lessons, they react to profits. They're 100% gonna boil the frog here.
know who never pushed AI?
Linux.
know who has fixes or useful community support?
Linux.
know who doesn't scan your desktop every second to scrape your data?
Linux.
know who has the audacity to provide a free product and still doesn't sell your identity to the lowest bidders?
Linux.
holy shit, it's almost like Linux is the OS by the people for the people...
I think it's really easy for Lemmy users to assume that the general population has the same technological interest and literacy that they do.
The Windows 11 users they are talking about are from an /r/pcmasterrace thread.
The vast, vast majority of consumers don't give a shit. They don't care enough to even think about whether their computer is actually secure, they don't care that they don't own their OS, and they don't care that AI is being shoved in.
Their computer is a magic box to them, and they don't care to know more.
I do think the vast majority of users see things like copliot all over the OS, and then watch their PC run like shit, and assume it's the new fandagled thing ruining their experience regardless of whether they care about AI or not.
Especially if they update and the entire computer is then broken, like with the recent bug where it would break particular SSDs.
That wasn't a Microsoft issue. It was a bad driver from the company.
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i don’t believe it and am no longer giving them the chance to allow me to see it.
Microsoft hasn't made a decent OS since Windows 7, why would they start now?
Agreed. 2000 was fantastic, but that was 9 years before 7. Its been 17 years since 7.
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and this is why I use Linux. No forced AI nonsense being shoved down my neck.
What sucks is - windows is the easiest to jump off. There are tons of viable alternatives.
There is nothing for mobile.
For mobile I can't recommend Graphene enough. Freedom from Google with no draw backs.
Assuming you have self control about keeping shite apps off your mobile, fastest and most private option there is.
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I think the best way to turn people on to Linux is to give them a bootable live USB, so they can try it out. Otherwise, they have no basis for comparison.
Too many people just accept whatever Microsoft gives them, shrug and think, "Well, I guess this is just the way computers are."
I like the idea, but unfortunately most PCs don't boot from USB out of the box. It requires a few easy steps, but this might just be enough for a lot of people not to try it.
The best way from my perspective is to show them.
At tech events and meetups, I'm showing them Linux.
When my friends come over, I show them my self hosted solutions on a Linux.
At work, where we use Macs, we talk about open-source, including Linux.
Windows 11 feels like Microsoft is actively punishing me for being foolish enough to keep using their products. Adding some janky AI bullshit machine to this garbage fire feels now they're just taking the piss.
No joke, one of the last straws for me was their stupid copilot popup on the active cell in Excel. Hated that garbage. Also their refusal to let me just use the file explorer to save my files. Maybe I'm an old fogey, but every new addition felt like a step backwards. I have now switched to Linux and am having a decent time (not for everyone tho and I totes understand if others don't want to make the switch).
Microsoft's promises to fix the OS and stop pushing AI
Never heard such a promise.
There's a threshold that you pass and once you do there's no going back because the trust is lost forever and customers will go the next chance they get.
It looks like this is finally the point we might have reached with windows.
The Start menu has gotten worse with every update. It is getting ridiculous.
I can no longer click start > type in the program I need > hit enter.
Start menu, you had one job!
They'll stop pushing AI by integrating it throughout the system similar to how Internet Explorer is tied to everything. Except much more invasive.
Their goal is certainly not reducing AI, it's making it seamlessly incorporated in everything you do.
I read "reevaluating its AI strategy on Windows 11" as "finding a more subtle way to shove that botulistic sausage down their customers throats".
Yeah, exactly, they never said they are removing any AI. Just will be slapping some paint on it.
botulistic sausage
Epic new band name
Or Roblox username!
It does sound kind of like those randomly generated Xbox live usernames from back in the day
Great news, you don't have to bother, just switch to Linux. I did, and I don't have to spend a single moment worrying about what Microsoft is doing to their garbage.
i'll never see it because i'm never using windows again
Same!
I’m currently building my business to be platform agnostic.
For the most part I’m using open source for everything that can be.
Bow that I think of it, the only non-open source stuff I use are zoom, outlook (need it for shared inboxes), and my payment processor. I doubt I will move on from these platforms as their value is really good. Zoom is the only one I may transition away from from as costs grow.
I stopped seeing all the copilot ai crap after I removed it from my windows 11 computer. Not sure what versions of windows people on here are running but I'm glad it's not on my PC! It is unfortunate that windows needs to be debloated if you buy home version instead of enterprise (a mistake I made), if they keep making users need to tweak stuff they'll be better off on linux soon! Windows was supposed to be the idiot proof for office drones but it appears those days are gone.
Not sure what versions of windows people on here are running
No version
Windows 11 felt like a downgrade before all the AI bs. Microsoft values me more as an advertising opportunity than a customer.
That was my reaction when I read about them pulling copilot and such. I think it's probably the reaction of every software nerd.
They have an (unintentional) strategy of alternating good and bad releases. So *if windows 12 comes out and it is somewhat sensible, it will be amazing when compared to win 11, and people will not wait to get off 11 onto 12.
Whereas if 12/came out right after 10, it would be compared to 10 and people would not like it as much.
If you look at the foundations of the OS the pattern becomes clear. They release a concept of an OS, but its half baked and not implemented well. So they fix it and rebrand it, and that's the "good" version.
95 became 98
ME became XP
Vista became 7
10 became 10 - they broke pattern by wanting to stay in a perpetual 10 state and keep updating it (which is why it was around 10 years). 10 was not good when it launched and took years to fix it, essentially becoming its own replacement.
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