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[-] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The people who needed to be convinced think the New York Times is globalist propaganda. If they even noticed the existence of this article they would assume it was a made up smear campaign against Dear Leader.

Also, our media (even the "liberal media") is part of the problem. For example, they did such a terrible job explaining Trump's attempts to steal the 2020 election that to this day even many anti-Trump Americans don't understand how fucked up it was.

The primary blame is on the sociopaths in charge and the troglodytes who voted them in, but there is plenty of guilt to go around.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

I worked in news media in the Bush years and I got to see first hand how our national news promoted the lies coming from the Bush administration and helping spearhead support for an Iraq invasion.

The media has been a problem for a long time.

[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

NYT endorsed Iraq invasion even though there was no evidence of WMDs and the rest of the world was against it. Surprise, no WMDs were found.

Interestingly, some companies did steal billions upon billions of dollars and we blew the national debt up. Strange that outcome ..

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

NYT also sat on the story about NSA wiretapping US citizens for over a year at the behest of the Bush admin. Later, DNI Clapper would deny that spying on Americans happened "wittingly," a denial which would push Edward Snowden to leak information thst proved otherwise.

[-] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

The NYT also sat on the story of Trump having Maduro kidnapped. They (along with WaPo) were informed of the operation 24 hours before it happened.

[-] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Iraq II - Shock and Awe was definitely a huge part of my political awakening. I'm still saddened (but no longer amazed) that more people didn't figure it out at the time, and that so many still haven't figured it out.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

People still think the NYT is some left leaning (or even "far left" in some circles) source. It's fucking absurd.

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[-] cmoney@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

How was anyone supposed to know he was gonna do the things he said he wanted to do. 1000002742

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[-] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

It was fucking laid out in P2025 and from the mouths of the billionaires

Arrest him. The fuck

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[-] RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

A republic, if you can keep it

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

Predicted...openly by Trump.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

It said he'd shit his pants on live TV in the oval office?

[-] end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Pg 32, ¶2, §3 "Fard n shid pant XDD"

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In 2024, everything was already laid out for everybody to see clear as day - Trump1.0, MAGA's behavior since 2021, Project 2025...

BTW, in 2016, both Mary Trump and Tony Schwartz predicted Jan 6 21: "If he loses the next election, he won't go willingly."

Ever since Jan 6 21 it's been crystal clear where this goes if he wins again.

[-] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Ever since Jan 6 21 it's been crystal clear where this goes if he wins again.

"Wins again" as in violating another part of the constitution (22nd amendment)?

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

I meant it from the POV of 2021, so "wins again in 24"

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[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

His "Mein Kampf"

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And still it's being allowed to happen

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I can see the URL, I know it's the NY Times ... but it feels like it could just as well be a link to the Book of Revelation. Fuck this timeline sucks

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Every single fucking thing Trump has done I predicted and warned people about and got shadowbanned across half the goddamn internet for it.

Okay great we were warned, let's stop whinging about the idiots of the past and start working to convince today's idiots.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I think the most important thing about this era is to understand how the fuck this happened. I have no answers and have never heard anything convincing. I think if humanity lasts long enough, hundreds of years of scholars will be trying to understand it. Most people on earth could've predicted most of this shit, yet no amount of spreading that knowledge made a fucking difference. If nothing else, this tells us how unbelievably irrational humans are.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I have a pretty good idea how it happened, I just have no idea how we can guardrail our human weaknesses against every single entity committed to exploiting those weaknesses in new and inventive ways so that they can gain power over others.

We had this entirely new thing come into our lives where we could get mental stimulation on-tap anytime we want, perpetually and it fucked everyone's minds, we lost our attention spans and learned to fear each other as organized groups worked tirelessly to change our thinking and behavior, either for commercial purposes or for social/political agendas, and it worked spectacularly because we had no idea what "the internet" does to a human brain until someone makes the internet and does it all to us.

Social pressure holds communities together, as primitive as it is, it's a system we're designed to work within, and as we've given up community outside influences are replacing it with incel-forums, loot-boxes, 24-hour news feeds, same-day shopping and and endless stream of jokes, memes and voices each desperately trying to get your attention, and getting just enough that you don't look away or question your own capacity to question.

And of course it doesn't help that actual bad people are doing things like indirectly paying millions of people in developing nations to spread propaganda across the US for retweets and clicks because it's just enough money to make a career for someone in India or Philippines.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You're right about all of this. What I can't fathom though -- is that in the past, facts mattered. A lot. How did all of the propaganda literally erase that entirely? That's what I cannot figure out. It's not like the internet invented the concept of the lie. Before social media, at least most people would have some skepticism and if nothing else, ask their smart friend. How the hell did that go away?

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[-] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

When the trash humans are saying they will do this and that. When they publish it. Its not a prediction.

[-] irelephant@anarchist.nexus 1 points 1 month ago

Its hard to call it a prediction when he literally just said it himself

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