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How can Thunderbird be the third favourite Email service, when it's not even an email service? It's a mail user agent.
Or do they mean the Thundermail service available in the Thunderbird Pro Subscription?
Surprised privacy conscious people are so pro obsidian when it's not even source available
It keeps my data in plain text files, integrates well with git and simply does the most things I always wanted a note taking application to do, when compared with anything else I have tried so far.
Yes, I would be happier with an open source application, but the first two are hard requirements for me, which already removes the majority of the alternatives.
On the other hand, I will never understand why anyone would use brave, given how shady the thing is.
Just use nVIM
Does support internal links, md rendering and a useful search over all files without having to configure everything for three weeks? Because those features were what made me switch after a few years of just using vim.
Also having dynamic todo boxes on my daily notes, collected from all my ~1k notes.
Those are actual questions, not sarcasm, btw. I have never used nvim. I was under the impression it was more or less just vim.
Emacs supports whatever you want and more with org-mode. It's an upfront investment but you can use your config until you die.
Ever used org-roam? It's org-mode plus obsidian features. Absolutely love it.
Yeah I should have said it explicitly but that's what I was referring to. I have an org-mode / org-roam setup.
It doesn't quite fit your requirements, but org mode from emacs is very close.
.org files instead of .md, and the preview does require a bit of config, but it's not as bad as some make it be, especially if you pickup a preconfigured emacs "distro" (like doom emacs for example) in which case I think it's just a feature flag to set to on.
Org is also very appreciated for it's TODO features, which you seem to make a big use of.
It probably isn't a match for you due to the markdown requirement, but I'm mentioning it just in case you didn't consider it in the past.
Thanks for the recommendation. I knew org-mode exists, but I've only ever used emacs for proof-assistants which have no other ide-support. I guess I should at least give it a try.
Probably because it is all portable and in markdown, the devs are widely available and it is open enough that community, open source plugins can be easily made which allow you to make custom workflows that simply aren't available in any alternatives.
Linking is significantly easier and better than any alternative I have tried which significantly lowers the effort of documentation which is the largest hurdle for most people. As all social media shit apps have taught us, ultra low-effort beginning of a habit is the key to consistent use.
And if the dev enshittifies, all of your notes are safe in plaintext markdown and not a proprietary format and can be imported and cleaned up in your choice of new editor and fix the linking.
Can't believe people always use this crypto-spam browser.
Same, I was surprised brave is so popular.
I use it for school shit because they don't work with iceraven(my preferred mobile Firefox fork)
I use it to pirate sports streams and thats pretty much it. It just works better than Firefox for some reason.
Probably because it's chromium based and the sites are chromium optimized
That's my opinion at least
Brave and Firefox are very competitive when it comes to pushing unnecessary "features" on their users. (Remember when Mozilla bought an NFT and AI company to put a shopping toolbar in their browser?)
Comparing brave and fire fox is like comparing librewolf and chrome. When people suggest using a privacy browser other than brave, they’re not saying “just use fire fox”.
I'm just speaking on the two most popular browsers according to the survey - LibreWolf is in a league of its own for sure.
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Matrix is the protocol. Element is the client and just one of many.
Why is Thunderbird listed with proton mail, tuta and fastmail?
They are a provider as well as a client now.
Interesting. So you can actually create a Thunderbird email address?
Do you think the statistics are representative of the overall userbase? To me, this suggests recency bias (or maybe people who misunderstood the question, because it made me do a double-take too). Either way, Thunderbird using its established branding and reputation is a great move.
I think Firefox's usage is more, Proton Mail is less, Addy.io is more, DuckDuckGo Email Alias is less, DuckDuckGo search usage is more, Matrix is more (btw Matrix is not app :D), Bitwarden is less, Obsidian is more (unfortunately it's closed-source), uBO is more, Windscribe is more, AI usage is more
I'm considering swapping from Proton Mail to Fastmail. The fact that it allows 3-year subscriptions is good (I'd prefer a lifetime plan but I understand why that's a non-starter), the fact that it's based local to me is good too.
EDIT: I wish it also at least offered a rolling 3-year subscription.
Fastmail is hosted in Australia which has some iffy privacy laws thst may affect fadtmail (although fastmail won't sell your data at least) https://www.e4237161d240bc6333d6834ce-19834.sites.k-hosting.co.uk/showthread.php?s=23fc90acb4f52ac90ee43d800bb66a77&t=74082
I have moved to mailbox.org which has been great too. Just offering an alternative in case you are interested in a European host
In terms of escaping targeted government surveillance, Australia is not the country to be in. If the Australian government is targeting you, there's no escape.
In terms of escaping mass surveillance and of keeping your personal information private, Australia isn't that bad. Simply by the fact gmail is allowed to operate in the country it isn't great either though.
Strengthening privacy laws around rental property applications is currently the main privacy concern for me, and recent state law changes have marginally improved that.
Same. I moved from FM to Posteo (which is very cheap) AND Tuta. I use both email services for different uses. Tuta for more personal stuff like banking, medical, official gvt stuff like tax, vehicle registration etc. anything that requires my full identity. Then Posteo and Addy.io together for everything else. I never use my main posteo email address, I create aliases for everything. Am three services is only slightly more expensive than FM in total, but I feel it's a much more secure setup
+1 for Fastmail
Since anything but fully on-device encrypted/decrypted mails is still inherently insecure due to being unable to control the receiving end I consider email an insecure medium by default.
That was my reason to go with fastmail when I moved away from Gmail a couple of years ago and I am very happy with their service and apps. I am also paying three years at a time and would like to pay even further ahead of time, but what can you do.
I tried proton but didn't like being locked into using their apps or hosting the SMTP bridge at which point I might as well use a less secure approach to begin with that is more comfortable to use.
You know I just remembered that no one actually confirmed whether DuckDuckGo wasn't just a honeypot for the NSA because it didn't become big until after thr Snowden leaks lol.
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