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US Democratic Senator Mark Kelly has said he will "seriously consider" running for president in 2028 as he battles the Trump administration over a video in which he urged military personnel to refuse illegal orders.

The Arizona senator, who was accused of "seditious behaviour" by Donald Trump over the November clip, said he and his wife, Gabrielle Giffords, received "many" death threats after the president's comments.

"We get them on a weekly basis now," he told BBC Newsnight. "We had to get security to protect us 24 hours a day."

Asked if he was considering a White House run, the retired Navy captain said he was considering it "because we're in some seriously challenging times".

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[-] EpicMuch@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 months ago

I’d vote vote for anyone (Mark Kelly) over anyone who protects pedophiles. Plain. Simple. Straightforward.

[-] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Honestly, I'm just happy if theres an alternative to Newsome. Kelly isnt a progressive, but hes not a full blown corpo shill that the DNC would happily shove down our throats if unopposed.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Either the next president will be a Democratic Socialist, or it will be a fascist. Democrats need to get back 20% of their base, plus the margin they need to pick up in the places they need to make up the differences they'll need to win the big house.

Ask yourself this without looking at this announcement: Can a corporate Democrat do that?

I'm telling you now, either the next president will be a Democratic Socialist, or the Republicans win. No amount of glazing liberals is going to make them capable of winning an election.

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[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 10 points 2 months ago

He might have to clarify a lot of his stances to get widespread support. For examples,

he opposed the Republicans tax bill giving cuts to the rich, but he has no comments on Kamala's proposed unrealized gains tax for the rich

he has a 100% scorecard from reproductive freedom advocates, but exactly how far he supports bodily autonomy and by extension trans rights is unknown

Sadly one thing he has been clear and consistent on is when the war in gaza began several years ago, he supported aiding Israel and moving a carrier group to threaten Iran and Houthis into deescelating. He still as recent as January promises to continue "aiding" Israel despite acknowledging the carnage.

Honestly, I don't like the idea. But he's a little better than Newsom and he's 10,000x better than Trump.

[-] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

So basically, just another dem. I'll vote for whoever wins the primary, but he probably wouldn't be my first choice.

[-] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I will vote for anyone that promises to hurt Republicans

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago

Personally, what I am hoping for is a ticket with AOC as president, and Mark Kelly as vice. He can help AOC with military issues, while she can guide the nation towards some flavor of Democratic Socialism.

I think we will see a civil war, so we definitely need a military expert in a major role. Kelly should do nicely.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And I will seriously consider voting for just about anyone else left of him in the primary. No offense to him, he seems like a very solid dude, but the time for half-measures, centrists, and people that believe institutions will save us is well beyond over.

[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago

You nailed it on the head. If AOC runs, I’m absolutely voting for her. If not, Kelly seems a lot better than Newsom.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah Kelley seems to be a centrist with a soul. I don't want another fucking centrist but I really must insist on a candidate with a soul

[-] Nebraska_Huskers@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Ya I'm not compromising. Leftist or nobody

[-] CovertGogurt@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

You are the reason Trump won.

[-] Nebraska_Huskers@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

LMAO if even you clown. I played it safe with the Democrats non nominee the last two times Trump won. They still had their asses handed to them.

Done playing it safe. I do blame Trump's victory on The pro Palestine protest voters though. Maybe you should be mad at them. They stayed home. I at least tried. You're a fucking joke. This isn't reddit noob This isn't a safe space for dem neolibs

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I love AOC, I think she's the future of the country, but please please PLEASE do not nominate another candidate with a vagina in 2028. We're just not ready for that.

I am selfish as a New York State resident and want to keep her, and give her Chuck's seat in 2028. Maybe after a term or three in the Senate we'll be ready to elect someone without a penis as President.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

What utter BS. We have progressive women winning races in the house and Senate so the problem isn't having a damn vagina. The issue is the last two women presidential candidates were neoliberal jackasses that had crappy policies and dismissive attitudes toward their electorate.

Sure be selfish and say you want to keep her representation local but piss of saying a woman can't win and then say don't even try.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The Presidency is a bridge too far, though.

Ask yourself: why did Joe Biden, of all people, win, where Clinton and Harris didnt? It certainly wasn't because he had fewer "crappy policies" than they did.

America, as a whole, is simply too misogynistic to elect a woman as President right now but, they are at least self-aware to know they can't say that out loud. So we get excuses, instead, like "I don't like her laugh" or "I just don't agree with her".

My favorite was a dude who said "I can't vote for Harris, she reminds me too much of my ex-wife". At least he's honest.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, going to call bullshit again here.

Let's take a look at the 2016 election

Popular vote was 65 million Hillary to 62 million to Trump.

Let me repeat here, Hilary, the vaginal candidate, WON the popular vote.

She lost because she didn't listen to Sanders and other Democrats that told her don't do your quixotic Southern strategy and listen and talk to your disillusioned working class voters in the rust belt.

And because she's was a stubborn, neoliberal ass hat that thought she knew better, she lost the electorial college.

As for Harris, fuck, there's so many things she just did wrong along with Biden.

So again, with all due Internet respect, get out of here with your anti woman BS and America as a whole won't elect a woman. We just need a non-shitty neoliberal one.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Both she (and Harris) lost because their votes were not in the right zip codes. Biden got those votes. Biden was not a magically better candidate than either woman. There's only one explanation that makes any sense at all.

Some voters may not even be aware of it. They might not even realize they are giving male candidates the benefit of the doubt, while assuming the worst about female candidates.

Did anyone ever say they couldn't vote for Bill Clinton or GWB because they didn't like the way they laughed?

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Okay, so let's get some data behind your Ludacris' Area Codes Theory of Misogynistic Voting caused the loss of the 2016 and 2024 elections then.

You're anecdotal evidence of some guy who said they would never vote for Hilary or that one guy who went and said they didn't like her laugh, the only thing that proves is that America has people that are misogynistic, which of course is true, but isn't proof of your premise that women can't win elections. I can point out people that said they wouldn't vote for her because Harris was black but that doesn't provide enough of a basis that she lost due to racism. Anecdotal stories does not equal causation.

Here's some more supporting evidence that Americans are becoming more open to women in office.

https://www.genderontheballot.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/2025-GOTB-Deck-c4_release.pdf

Some highlights because I'm sure you won't read:

  • four in 10 Americans personally know someone who would not elect a woman to the White House
  • 83 percent of people polled think it's important to elect more women into office.
  • 82 percent are open to a qualified woman candidate for president.

So again data allows that women still have a hurdles but supports that a woman can win the presidency and I'll continue to vote for a qualified progressive women in the primaries to counter your misogynistic vote.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 0 points 2 months ago

AOC does not move me honestly. I would vote kelly over her. Maybe yang.

[-] bagsy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

He seems ready to fight, and seems fearless. He has my vote if he starts demanding trials, convictions, and jail time for the traitors and pedophiles.

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

ITT: People placing their hopes on a presidential race when they don't even know if they are even going to be able to have a legitimate rollover on the midterms.

[-] Astrius@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Worker led revolution please this system doesn’t serve us.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago

I am hard pressed to think of a democrat I would vote for in a primary over him.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A lot of lefties going to complain about his support for israel, even if modest. But honestly I cannot see another viable candidate in the wings. We have a couple years still but things are getting scary in terms of actual prospects and we're going to have to throw our hats in with someone (other than Newsom) so Kelly is probably going to be a great bet, he appeals to the largest swath of moderate America who are tuned out and just want to hear that someone strong and professional will keep them in their comforts, and he has enough established clout with the legislative branch that he already has political capital, they won't be afraid of working with him.

And he's seen Earth from space, and had to be a caregiver for a wife who was the victim of a political assassination attempt, I imagine that builds all the best kind of character and empathy.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah that was something before trump got in but for democrats like myself the only thing that matters now is getting our house in order. Even then it was not like my top concern more of a hey why are we even involved in this bs but now its something that just is not part of the equation for me. I mean its a strange comparison but its somewhat like obama. Character, intelligence, ability. Honestly the age thing is likely the biggest factor but hoowee compared to we have been having he will still be a pup but who knows how the next two years will go.

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

i like mark kelly and gabby would be a fantastic first lady but please not right now; we need a radical to clean up the mess.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We need a Warrior, who will go after MAGA's crimes likes it's personal. I don't care who it is, old, young, man, woman, black, white, anybody, everything else is on the back burner. We can't get this country on any kind of a track until we ruthlessly crush MAGA, purge it from our government and our country, and harshly punish them for their crimes. Only then, can we start to make plans to redeem our Nation in the eyes of our citizens, the world, and history

I'll vote for anybody who pledges to make that their primary priority as POTUS.

[-] Wilco@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

Remember MAGA chanting "lock her up"? We need that energy now for the Democrats, lock Trump up ... imprison all of these corrupt pieces of filth and seize their grifted assets.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

I'm totally with you, brother.

[-] Elroc@lemmus.org 1 points 2 months ago

So if he wins he will be at retirement age when he is starting? Are you sure he is old enough for American voters?

[-] smeenz@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 months ago

He's not nearly senile enough

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Honestly I'd love for him to run in the primary against a progressive.

He's left of center centrist to be sure but miles ahead of that slimy ass Newsome.

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