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[-] communism@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago

It didn't symbolise that. It symbolises the unity between the industrial proletariat and the peasantry. It's not about different proletarian occupations; it's about a class alliance between two working classes.

The peasantry doesn't exist anymore in most parts of the world, but imo most people understand the hammer and sickle to symbolise communism anyway so it still works.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

Can't believe I missed that in the title, yea, peasantry aren't proletarian but instead they are their own class.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 22 hours ago

A spatula and a necktie.

[-] Twongo@lemmy.ml 5 points 22 hours ago

Laptop and Starbucks cup 🥰🥰

[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 23 hours ago

I like the Juche symbol

[-] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago

Well, I already own one of those things...

[-] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

time to save up for the vibrator !

[-] CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

Like someone here in the commercial said, today the labour is to much diverse and there probably couldny be just a few symbols. I Just fucking love so much the red star, it's very iconic but also simple. Idk thou

Definitely just the hammer & sickle. It still very much applies.

Alternatively, though this is not strictly Communism but Socialism, I really like the common logo used for Democratic Socialism, the Fist and Rose!

I also really like the logo of the Democratic Socialists of America!

[-] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

I think modern labour might be too diverse to cover properly with only a few symbols. We're no longer uniting two labour forces, material conditions have changed. I think that instead of focusing on types of labour, we might instead focus on what the movement can bring.

We could put basic human rights on a theoretical new flag. A drop represents access to water, bread represents access to food, and a roof over both.

If you want a new flag, picking something that unites is all (our needs) might be a good way to go.

[-] Edie@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The GDR coat of arms or the WPK emblem are nice variations

Compass and Hammer from the flag of East Germany

Brush, Sickle, and Hammer from the Workers Party Of Korea Emblem

Quills have been used in a bunch of variations. Cogwheels too

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The WPK emblem is perfection.

[-] sushiatnight@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

I absolutely love the WPK emblem.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Always thought the GDR and WPK had awesome h&s variations!

[-] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago

I like this one, especially. The DPRK one is great as well

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The same, honestly. These jobs never went away, they were just shifted out of the imperial core to the periphery. It's a symbol of two classes, the proletariat and the peasantry. While the peasantry has been mostly phased out, its symbol remains.

[-] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

I don't think the scythe really represents farming in the modern era though.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Neither does the hammer for the average industrial worker, but both are symbolic.

[-] SGforce@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago

Bluetooth headset and an uber eats food carrier

[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think the ACP has a neat symbol. It's too bad the party is ass.

Edit: Before anybody gives me shit about it, it's a conservative party.

[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago

Except not all comrades are white-collar workers.

A very large number of us, believe it or not, are blue collar.

(I'm one of them.)

[-] folaht@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is the way I see it:

Primary sector: Agriculture - Sickle - Manufactures edible goods
Secondary sector: Industry - Hammer - Manufactures non-edible goods
Tertiary sector: Service - Mop - Helps people through transporting goods, repairing goods, cleaning, healing organisms, cashiering and catering.
Quarternary sector: Authority - Pen - Provides Law and Order through Government, Justice, Police, Education, Political, Media and Mental support (Psychiatry & Religion)
Quinary sector: Finance - Banknote - Gambles
Sextary sector: Automation - Cogwheel - Destroys jobs

As the service sector is large and sextary sector petite bourgeoisie than the service sector I suggest the following:

Mop and Pizza Box

I do think we're not there yet though.
Both objects are accurate but I feel like we need something more aggressive to show that we're revolutionary.
Hammers and sickles are both tools that can be used as weapons.


[edit #3]

Changed Judiciary to Authority.
Changed entertainment media from service sector to authority sector so now all media is in the authority sector, as plenty of entertainment shows have tried to and sometimes successfully driven people to adept to their political world views or even driven into political action.

[edit #2]

On second thought, perhaps I’ll replace syringe with pizza box. It evens out the sexes, both mop and syringe are practiced most often by women (cleaning lady and nurse), while transportation of goods is more often preferred by men as carrying goods can sometimes be physically demanding.

[edit]

I changed the Syringe to mop in the Tertiary sector as suggested by mech,
although I have to say that nurse is very common job,
which is why I chose the syringe.
Same goes for delivery person, but I'm betting on it being automated away faster than nursehood.

I crossed out cogwheel as a symbol for the proletariat as I realize that I consider a subsector of this (engineers) to be one part of the ruling class (the other being scholars) within socialism and thus not the proletariat.

[-] mech@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

I feel like the one tool that's used by the most workers in the Tertiary sector is the mop.
Every office in the world needs to be cleaned. And it's part of the job for everyone in retail or food service, too.

[-] folaht@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You convinced me:
I changed Pizza box to Mop and put Syringe in second place.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago

An espresso group head and an AI prompt.

[-] kindnesskills@literature.cafe 3 points 1 day ago

Protective gloves representing a lot of blue collars like industrial, mechanical, medical, and maintenance, cleaning.

Keyboard or headset (I considered outlook calendar or zoom symbols, but dont think a specific company should be immortalised here) for a lot of white collars.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Probably just an updated hammer and sickle, really.

[-] RedLink@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago

As an artist I'd love to see suggestions in this thread. The specific recommendations might be different country to country or smaller districts. Something thats difficult for the US is that a lotta people are doing jobs related to tech and there's not really a single unifying symbol for this. Hammer and sickle to represent farming and manufacturing is possible, and I believe adding a brush branches out to a wider movement.

But finding symbols to speak to the workers as a whole can be difficult with how diverse it all is. Theres so many hyper specialized machines and tools.

When making Icons before I've used my states iconography and Black panthers, and queer symbols like the pink triangle. This is extremely important and a good symbol will speak to the audiences you want and pull dedicated people into the movement.

It might be necessary to focus on smaller regions within the US and Unite those before creating broader movements. (OFC whichever is in the best interests of the end goal of revolution at that time.) I can only speak to the US however

[-] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

For tech workers, how about a keyboard, mouse, or a circuit board? Getting them to look good and clear on a flag would be difficult though...

[-] Pirat@lemmy.org 3 points 1 day ago

a manual particle collector (broom) and a manual particle shifter (shovel).

[-] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

A couch and a cell phone.

[-] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 day ago

I think about this a lot. I genuinely think this is a really important question for the future. I'm not sure if we can reclaim the hammer and sickle in the eyes of the masses but the idea it represents of the two largest labor forces joining together will forever be important.

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago

That is a very good point actually. Most western people look at the hammer and sickle and see evil. If we changed it to something else to make people feel more represented and avoid peoples gut reaction then it would really improve things.

[-] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

I disagree. I don't think the symbol is tainted, but the core idea behind it, because of the red scare propaganda. Once people realise what the new symbol stands for, they'll dislike it just as much, if not more so because they feel 'tricked'.

We have to reform the good name of communism instead, rather than throw it out wholesale.

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

I think your right.

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