Many claim that last stage of genocide is "denial"

But i think last stage of genocide is "normalization" - genociders convincing peopke that what happened was just a fate or inevitable or even normal.

Look at USA. Mfs dont deny their ancestors genocided natives, they claim it was "normal flow of history" and "it just happened"

It is basicaly taunting those that survived - "look, we are so powerful we can admit our evilness without consenquences"

I point this out when people act apathetic about past genocides. Not attempting to actively combat injustices in the past still haunting today is to give the greenlight for more like it to happen.

Israel is what happens when you take Amerikkka, boil it to concentrate and distill its essence, and replace christian fascism with jewish facism. A settler colonial state that has a founding story of fleeing religious persecution that steals land and murders and expels the inhabitants. What one am I talking about here?

i mean, bibi is essentially sitting in jerusalem with one hand on the genocide dial looking back at the us to see how high he can turn it up before biden freaks out

God damn.

Struggling to see what the point of morality is when you’re just standing alone. Really makes you think like you’re the one in the wrong, but I guess that’s what happens when you’re trying to convince those who believe evil is the default state of human nature

Seeing the discourse in Canada and Australia is awful. Absolutely no acknowledgement of settler-colonialism. They have subreddits (I know, I know) for the countries and some posts were comparing what happened in Canada and Australia to Palestine and it seemed most people could not accept that setter-colonial countries have a stained history.

There are land acknowledgements, then in the next sentence there will be without skipping a beat, condemnation of the people of Palestine. One comment I saw took issue with a statement that had "so called Australia" in it, I believe referring to the fact that these places had names before they were colonized by imperial powers.

I feel really bad for kids in public school right now learning about concentration camps in holocaust for the first time, because you know that's gotta be confusing as fuck to come home and see everyone cheerleading Israel on the TV doing the exact same shit to Palestinians, then you go back to school and read sad stories about the worst thing that ever happened in the history of the world ™

I feel like it'll go more the way of Turkey and the Armenian genocide than anything else. Israel already has the "International Community" by the balls in order to prevent them from even calling it a genocide the way Turkey did with foreign governments.

I disagree. The only people who will think like this are liberals, and who gives a fuck what they think? Libs gonna lib, as they always have. Left-wingers (some of them, at least - I assume there were some who thought differently) have always been critical of colonialism and imperialism - Marx wrote scathingly about atrocities committed by the British against the Chinese and Engles had some thoughts about the English occupation of Ireland, for example. If it seems as though no-one cared about the Aboriginal Australians or the First Nations people, it was very likely because not as much was known about them; there were only so many socialist thinkers at the time, and they were probably more preoccupied by potential revolutions going on closer to home.

However, the surviving indigenous peoples of America and Australia certainly won't forget what happened to them, or what is still happening to them. The palestinians have the support not just of white European and American leftists like myself, but broadly of the Muslim diaspora community on those continents and the people of the Islamic nations surrounding Palestine. I know I certainly won't forget what Israel has done, nor will I ever think it was justified. And what happens when Uncle Sam finds it inconvenient or impossible to stand up for Israel anymore? I don't know for sure, but it will probably involve a lot more killing.

I think an important caveat is that Israel do not literally want all Palestinians to die for the sole sake of them no longer existing. Initially Zionism wanted them off the land so that they could exploit it themselves and their own Israeli working class. But the Israeli economy now relies too much on exploiting Palestinian labor, notably in Israel proper and the West Bank, with large numbers of being going into Israel every day to work. In that they also rely economically on exploiting dirt-cheap Palestinian labor. That doesn't change the fact that they have still been engaging in slow-motion (in the long-run pov) ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, but it is important for understanding how they will relate to Palestinians. Nor does it change the fact that Israeli politicians, ministers and military officials are thinking, saying and doing genocidal shit, but I don't think the Israeli state as a political entity thinks it is in their interests to literally industrially murder every last Palestinian for the sake of it. The geopolitical factors here of brutally beating the Palestinians into submission is also an explicit goal that Israeli and American state and intelligence officials have been talking about publicly and privately.

I agree that is probably what they're doing, but I also read in this an implication that putting the past behind us is a bad thing. Though there is still 100% need to address the current plights and oppression of indigenous people today, as well as the inequalities existing today created by past conditions, you can't fight a long-forgotten war forever, and that's probably a good thing.