This makes as much sense as "I walked backwards into the office before meeting my caseworker so now my ex-wife owes ME child support"
Speaking of which, it's bad enough that this is insane, but so much worse that, to this person, finding a loophole is more important than aiding the survival of the human being they created.
Wait, there IS one thing worse: the crowds of idiots in this group who will, no doubt, cheer this on.
There are two things that are worse.
Having this loser as your absent father, and worse than that having this loser as your non-absent father.
to this person, finding a loophole is more important than aiding the survival of the human being they created.
ikr isn't their kid a sovereign citizen too?
Oh wait maybe their kid's "an enemy or an ally to an enemy."
ikr isn’t their kid a sovereign citizen too?
Not if they have birth certificates or social security numbers, in that case, they’re doomed
The craziest part of this shit, is they really think it's this simple and everyone isn't doing it
Like, if shit was this easy, wouldn't a lawyer somewhere use this shit and make ridiculous money?
They think the law is magic and if they find the right combination of words they can cast a legal spell.
perfect way to explain this type of stupidity
It's just a matter of reciting the right incantation.
"It's levi-OH-sa, not levio-SAH."
to be fair, what you describedis how the law works so it's understandable they're confused.
TBH, I wonder if it's a matter of the law being impenetrable for normal humans.
Since they can't understand the system as it's presented, they're trying to build their own understanding and tools from scraps and quackery.
It's like when people resorted to alchemy, fey, and God Of Lightning theories before we had accessible science.
Except science got more acessible. There are galaxies of free, high quality resources designed to help laypeople understand science, while the law becomes ever more inconclusive, esoteric, and buried behind "beware of the leopard" warnings.
It's just the component for most law spells is cash money.
Yeah they should know that the real magic in the legal system is done with money.
They're always completely convinced their methods work. I joined a bunch of their stupid groups and gave them bogus advice which they ate up with a spoon.
wouldn't it be great if you were reading some of their legal transcripts and found seeds of your bullshit and then later found it in the actual court proceedings with the judge trashing them
I'm already starting to see them talk about things my friend and I have told them in their nuttery. One thing we've been trying to convince them of is that they need a postal stamp with a fox on it as it's the seal of the great councillor of admiralty (which I made up out of my ass), and they're assuring each other they all do it. It's hilarious. My friend uses Chat GPT to create sovcit content for them.
Sacha Baron Cohen-level trolling.
Would love to see that content! I end up wasting ridiculous time watching sovcits on YouTube. I'd much rather read their lunatic rambling.
There's a group called Sovereign Services 1099A, and one called American State Nationals. As long as you keep quiet they don't notice people are just there to watch their crazy.
I really love how all these nut jobs think they just have to use some special words to trigger the magic loophole. They always seem so surprised when the people in charge say there isn't one.
Good job trying to cut off your kids, asshole. They’re better off without a cheap, callous moron like you around.
Thank you! We're all so focused on this dude being a complete nutjob that we're missing the fact that he's trying to fuck his kids over.
I had a guy who was dipping his toes into sovcit stuff when I worked in child support. He owed his ex 6 figures and first he tried stuff like, "she told me she wants to forgive it, can you send me the paperwork she needs so I can give it to her?" When that didn't work, he started asking things like when did he agree to our state having jurisdiction and since he never consented, the case was invalid. Then he asked for a form that was clearly made up but the name was classic sovcit magic spell nonsense. When I told him it didn't exist and asked what he was trying to do, he stopped replying.
When I left, he still hadn't found the magic words. Pretty sure he'll die owing that woman money. He wasn't as bad as the mom veering into qanon who accused me of trafficking her children, though. It became real obvious, real fast how her ex and his family had permanent restraining orders.
Just want to clarify - the sovcit dad and qanon mom were completely different cases, right? PLEASE tell me that the kids have at least one sane parent.
Ha yes, and neither of them even lived in the same state as their kids, which was really for the best.
let me get this straight, son.. you won't stand up and support your kids, but in your mutton head the lady behind the desk is the one hiding..
Good point, I hadn't considered that element of it. Whatever else they think they may be doing there's a group of people who are proudly showing off that they're trying to avoid supporting their children and creating undeniable evidence of that fact. Bet their kids will be so proud of them in the future.
See the thing about the law, is that it's mostly saying the right magic words. A lot of people don't get that.
It's called an attorney. An attorney says the right words.
Well sure, But the difference is that an attorney makes the right argument based on laws, context and evidence. Soverign citizens think they can avoid vehicle registration, taxes or road laws by saying they are a "private traveler".
I mean the person in the image thinks they just magic loophole'd themselves out of a court order. 😂
Can we just force these people into mental health treatment? They shouldn't be allowed untreated around anyone
People this stupid need education, not straitjackets.
The straitjackets are the only thing that'll get them to sit still for the education!
I don't think that's how straightjackets or education work
Well they have already been educated, that's why they go off like this, they think they're smart.
But they've been typically taught by others of their ilk, so you'd have to educate them again in the correct manner. They have to be re-educated, with all its worrying connotations.
At this point I think it's less morally ambiguous to just bludgeon them to death with a baseball bat. Call it evolution, survival of the least annoying.
At some point I start to feel that making fun of people like this is like making fun of the handicap.
Sure, this person is almost certainly a violent white supremacist. But read that sloppy excuse for a thought. You can't believe something that obviously stupid without being in need of some serious support.
This person is actually black. Moorish sovcits often are. Many of them are white supremacists though.
I’m making a deliberate effort not to think about the logic of a black person being a white supremacist. My head will implode.
In the UK we call it the racist taxi driver phenomenon. A lot of taxi drivers in the UK are Muslim, and came over to the UK in the 70s and 80s. Now they are dead against immigration and want to pull the ladder up after themselves. Also when you get in the taxi they tell you all about this.
They rationalise it in their heads as, it's not racism, it's just prudent immigration policy.
South Africa has the same problem, racist Africans been racist about people of their own ethnicity. I'm sure there's some deep and meaningful cultural difference between the two groups, but you'd have to be African to know about it.
These freaks want to basically give up their citizenship. Soo... Can we just boot them out of the country? I don't care where they go, they're literally refusing to follow US laws or pay US taxes. If nothing else, they should not be allowed on public streets, banned from public/government property, and not eligible for any public services.
They want to make it on their own so badly so go for it! Even undocumented immigrants at least want to be here!
Right? Just give these people a boat and let them know they're no longer welcome. They can live out their days in international waters.
"she paused for 10 seconds" yes. Well. As one does when trying to understand gibberish.
It's big steppa season!
Public servants hate this one weird old trick!
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