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Arrested for "unlawful conduct" sounds like even more bullshit than being arrested for "resisting arrest."
They'll drop the charges. It's about sending a message.
Message received. Burn it down. There are far too many off us for this racist, homophobic, and most importantly unorganized group of thugs.
When will it be enough?
You are under arrest for crime crime
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's no law on the books that states "it is illegal to commit unlawful conduct." It's just a bullshit charge cause there were no real laws that she broke for them to charge her with.
Standing when supposed to be seated? Jail.
Seated when supposed to be standing? Jail.
Standing too close to police? Jail.
Standing too far from police? Also jail.
Undercook overcook, straight to jael
Scrambled? I know it's hard to believe, but also straight to jail.
Ah yes, standing while brown. Capital offense
The first issue was existing while brown. The standing just made her more visible.
What a shithole country. It's clearly a no-go zone.
American here. You're not wrong. Please don't visit.
I already turned down a very lucrative job because they needed someone with a specific skillset to travel to the US. I said no. They offered more. I shut them down. There is no money that will make me set foot in the US ever again. Not only are my vacation plans done forever, you literally can't ever pay me to go.
There are a lot of wonderful people I will miss. Perhaps, in time, our peoples can heal. But not me, not in my lifetime. Betrayal is neither forgiven, nor forgotten. If you can fix your shit, maybe my children can call you friend. I'm fucking done with you all.
I don’t blame you. We got too many dumbasses here and all I am doing is just trying to survive in the trenches.
While it feels deeply satisfying to say that and even applaud you, I'll do a hot take:
Your country probably has almost or exactly as many deranged morons as we do here with MAGA, per capita. The difference is we've weaponized voter disenfranchisement and bipartisan hackery (crucially including gerrymandering), largely abandoned ethical journalism standards, and never really properly dealt with the aftermath of our civil war, what with shaming our traitors and educating and rebuilding the nation. We were able to get away with all of that because we toot our own horn so hard for so long about being the bastion of democracy, and the world largely agreed with us.
So we still have backwoods y'allQaeda training grounds who vote Trump because anyone with a (D) is the (D)evil, and their vote counts more than someone in an educated area due to the electoral college system.
TL;DR: MAGA isn't special - other countries have AfD, FdI, etc., which are all rising in popularity despite you turning your nose up at us for us being uniquely ridiculous.
We were able to get away with all of that because we toot our own horn so hard for so long about being the bastion of democracy, and the world largely agreed with us.
Not really. All democratic countries understood the fragility and flaws of their systems. Only the US went around tooting their own horn and dared call themselves a "bastion of democracy". "End of history", "Leader of the Free World" and all similar bullshit. Pride before the fall. At best, the rest of the world tolerated it as aspirational. Like when a low IQ child says they want to be an astronaut when they grow up. The adults don't want to crush a kid's dreams. We hope you guys would believe it enough to make it mostly true.
To Mark Carney's Davos speech - The rest of the world pretended it was sorta true, even when we knew it wasn't. We hoped maybe your shit would get better but it was just apathy, convenience and momentum on our parts. A great many around the world were calling the US out as psychotically fucked and terminally corrupt long before Trump.
You make an excellent point about all the neofascist groups and maga type morons around the world. But everyone has long acknowledged these risks and your point has been in the public debate since forever. Most other western democracies have held them back to date, and they deserve credit for that. Even when right wing parties win, they are still largely constrained in what they can do. The US doesn't anymore.
I turn my nose up at you, because you let the patients take over the insane asylum. The US is now the premiere threat to my country. I don't take vacations or jobs in Russia, Israel, China, North Korea, Iran and the like either. I talk shit about all of them at every opportunity too and none of them want to annex us. That you feel singled out like you are being treated as "uniquely ridiculous" just smacks of american hubris.
Not really. All democratic countries understood the fragility and flaws of their systems.
Is that why pretty much every Western country but France went virtually all-in on investing in our armament without developing their own? Sounds like Trump 4D Chess to me.
The adults don’t want to crush a kid’s dreams. We hope you guys would believe it enough to make it mostly true.
Mocking hindsight. You say that because the dream turned out to be a fiction. If it had done better, you'd never have said this.
TL;DR: "I knew those were going to be the winning lottery numbers. Ignore that I bought another ticket number entirely."
Most other western democracies have held them back to date, and they deserve credit for that. Even when right wing parties win, they are still largely constrained in what they can do.
No? Again, AfD, FdI, The Tories in the UK, etc. etc. are all gaining on rational, liberal democratic forms of government. They haven't won yet, but they're closing alarmingly fast.
TL;DR: You're in a house with a fire in the kitchen laughing at your neighbor for being so utterly stupid to let their entire house catch on fire. Give it ten minutes and we'll be in the same situation.
The irony, of course, is that you mock the American Exceptionalism that led to our imminent demise while implying we are unique in our failure, which makes you especially vulnerable to the same arrogant fall that we're undergoing. As is the case in scams, the best marks are the ones that think they're above getting taken advantage of.
You're in a house with a fire in the kitchen laughing at your neighbor for being so utterly stupid to let their entire house catch on fire.
No one is laughing.
Edit: Your country is no longer a joke, its a tragedy.
Okay, if you can't handle that part of the metaphor, I'll fix it for you:
You’re in a house with a fire in the kitchen ~~laughing~~ turning your nose up at your neighbor for being so utterly stupid to let their entire house catch on fire.
That better? Please don't say your country is not technically on fire. I'm not tailoring the metaphor for you again.
You didn't read or understand anything I said. Every country is well fucking aware of the risks. It's always been on the public debate record. My point is that only the US has terms like "American Exceptionalism." Methinks thou dost protest too much.
It's a go-zone despite the response. Please help us.
Nothing says ‘free speech’ like arresting people during your speech.
arrested for standing when supposed to be seated. She is lucky she was not seated when supposed to be standing or using both feet when your supposed to be on one and especially harsh penalties if you complain that they won't tell you whats illegal atm.
The ol' Simon Says Laws.
Simon doesn't fuck around.
Everybody always thought Alvin was the trouble maker....
I am calling for a full explanation of why this arrest occurred.”
How about this, I'm calling for people to stand the fuck up and retaliate.
Do that and we'll act accordingly
This is how we've treated the global South since inception, people are just upset it's visible again.
Why are we stopping here? It being visible again should be enough to take action.
some people complain this comes out every time R's are in power, like it somehow doesn't exist when D's are. personally, i prefer my enemies feeling comfortable enough to take their masks off (edit) because it lets me know who they are.
Well. You have them where you want them.
Step 2?
I want racists to be scared to show they're racist, not comfortable. The less comfortable they are, the more comfortable everyone else is. What kind of logic are you following?
just that, I like my enemies out in the open
So you can what
There was some "debate" a liberal was having recently. Think it was with Hasan but don't remember. The usual "lesser evil" bull shit. They were talking about healthcare and saying "well, if 100,000 people die without healthcare under Republicans and only 70,000 die under Democrats. Clearly that's better"
It's like, dude, you are just advocating for killing 70,000 people.
gotta love completely arbitrary made-up numbers when it comes to these "debates" too. hell, I would hazard to guess that the US's godawful for-profit/ratfucking galore healthcare system kills far more than that through sheer negligence (denying claims, general expense detering use, deadly conditions that could get caught/managed early with proper proactice healthcare instead reactive (which is more lucrative), people being to afraid to call an ambulance, the list goes on).
all lives that could be saved by ditching it for some single payer/universal system, call out all these parasitic middlemen.
I was absolutely cutting into you earlier, and I stand by that. But right here, you're nothing but correct.
Eh fuck off. I'm pretty mediocre with math, but your whole schtick about "lesser evil" falls right apart when your own make believe story spares THIRTY THOUSAND lives.
You're making your own not-point.
Tell me, what is the number that you would change your opinion? 80,000? 90,000? 99,999? Does it only change when the line crosses past 100,00?
Or is the entire premise of the scenario just dumb as fuck?
The entire point is how absolutely brain dead the entire argument is. That was the point of my conclusion "you are just advocating for killing 70,000 people". It is a rejection of the entire framing that the world works as if it's a "trolley problem". It is to reject the false premise the entire argument is built on. It's to scream and say "who the fuck tied the people to the track!?" Can we stop acting like pulling the lever is the only option? The world is not a fucking trolley problem.
It's a testament to your complete lack of understanding that you think it's about "math".
Judging the performance of a ruling party based on how many people they kill is just an insane premise to begin with. You should reject the opinions of anyone that does that.
That's the entire point of why I said "you are just advocating for killing 70,000" people. It exposes the true meaning behind what they are arguing for within its material outcomes and reality.
At least it does to anyone that can use their brain. You, well, you can apparently only see the world through the filter in which you have been told to look at it with. That's why the premise of the 100k or 70k question you accept without even thinking.
It's only purpose serves to justify that people keep dying from not being able to afford access to healthcare.
Dude.
Judging the performance of a ruling party based on how many people they kill is just an insane premise to begin with.
I'm responding to you doing exactly that. And not only that but making up a number without sources while you're at it.
Your enemy is you. And I'm just here to point it out.
That said, you contradicted yourself multiple times within your first comment, and then several more in the reply.
It's okay to be upset. But get organized. They're coming for you and me.
Go back and read my original comment that you replied to. I was talking about a "lesser evil voting" liberal debating someone. They made up this scenario of 100k vs. 70k. I am not the one that came up with that stupid hypothetical premise. I was literally mocking it.
You, misread my comment and then defended the made up scenario that I was mocking.
You might want to read a comment twice before you respond to it. Because if you could read my last response and not think "hmmm, did I misunderstand something? He seems to be rejecting his own hypothetical. He's either really really stupid or maybe I misread something."
That's what a normal person with some level of self doubt would do. Just take a second to double check their own assumptions when faced with such a massive contradiction.
It's what I did when I read your comment just now. Literally checked to see if I had a typo in my original comment or something. Because I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt. Nope, I literally even put quotes around the entire premise to make it clear I was quoting the dude from the debate.
You're the type of person that isn't even smart enough to question yourself.
Had me in the first 90% but I have eyes. No you weren't, and no you didn't. Please link it if I'm wrong.
I'm all for fucking up, but in this case I haven't. Your "in some story somewhere" is exactly what I'm talking about. This is no longer about anything real. My whole point is to make that known. So go ahead and provide the things you need to provide to be right.
Worst part is I don't disagree with you. I disagree with how you're going about it.
So, wait, which is it now? I "made up the hypothetical premise" or "I made up the debate of a liberal making up a hypothetical premise?"
Because those are two different things mate. You've spent this whole time arguing I made up the 100k vs. 70k premise.
Like, are you not capable of scrolling up? Are you really so unable to admit you misunderstood something that now you're demanding a link to the debate I was mentioning?
Like, I have it. I'll look for the exact part of the debate for you. But you've literally just changed the entire point you were arguing against.
It's a two hour long discussion. I'll find a timestamp for you if it's that important. But, holy shit, did you just move the goal post just to avoid admitting you misunderstood something. You really just look silly now.
It's 3-5 comments up. We're not inventing teleportation over here.
https://vger.to/lemmy.ml/comment/24188869
I'll link it for you.
She's a hero
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