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Was there even a mass exodus? I largely avoid Reddit now, but I do kind of doubt that they've been hurt in any meaningful way by all the protests and people leaving...

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[-] bratorange@feddit.de 314 points 1 year ago

Is it important that Reddit suffers? For me the important thing is that lemmy flourishes and has good oc.

[-] FierroGamer@sh.itjust.works 119 points 1 year ago

I support this point of view, but at the same time I want the status quo to be disrupted and the internet to change, I'm not a fan of allowing corporations to fall into complacency when they hold so much power.

[-] Jagermo@feddit.de 48 points 1 year ago

Right? Ignore them, have fun here. No reason to give any thought to them.

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[-] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 123 points 1 year ago

No idea, and I don't care. What matters for me is that there are enough people on Lemmy to keep it interesting.

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[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 103 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I don't really care. I like it here more than reddit and if it stays like it is, awesome.

I have no desire to see reddit succeed or fail, I simply found a place I fit in better.

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[-] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 100 points 1 year ago

Can't speak for anyone else, but as soon as RIF died I was gone. Was on it for over 10 years, and the only way I would view reddit content. Reddit's ui is cancer.

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[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 99 points 1 year ago

Just have a look at the content there, it dropped a lot in quality.

[-] couragethebravedog@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 year ago

As someone who only ever browsed all, I see no difference.

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[-] legion@lemmy.world 92 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn't leave to make the service worse.

The service got worse, and so I left.

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[-] STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago

Anyone that expected Lemmy to instantly get as big as reddit overnight were naive. Overall I think only a small fraction went away but reddit is clearly using tactics like mass inviting to group chats and reopening places to boost activity.

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[-] Cipher22@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago

Several major subs have closed, they're forced to campaign to keep mods, a significant amount of content generators have left. Even though it's been only a couple weeks, they've slid on the global index of visited sites. They've lost 3-4% of 1.7 billion views in weeks. That's 10's of millions of ads not delivered. That alone is several million dollars lost on a site trying to be profitable. This doesn't include people on the fence, people currently unaffected because their app didn't die until this week, or people just watching the drama until it's boring again. Also, Reddit depends heavily on free labor to succeed, the bulk of the community that is leaving is their free labor pool. They don't have the cash to pay moderators for their time and they just removed the tools that let those people do their work.

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[-] soulifix@lemmy.world 81 points 1 year ago

If we're perfectly honest - No.

Reddit has over 53 some odd million users. Million with an M. Lemmy has gained, at most, upwards of just thousands. To call it a 'mass exodus' is really overselling it.

It's going to take a fairly long time, for Lemmy to even scratch 100k even. I'm on both Reddit and Lemmy. Lemmy, for a more positive experience. Reddit, because the numbers are just there.

[-] althea_vestrid@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago

This crisis has given Lemmy enough users to be a vibrant, viable alternative with the software and apps undergoing rapid development. This means the next time that reddit tries to pull some shit, there will be somewhere for people to go, unlike this time. Lemmy just wasn't really ready for prime time.

[-] ButhJolokia@feddit.nl 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you are correct. Lemmy is really just gearing up at the moment, but can't handle the volume to compete with reddit.

The increase of instances, user guides, communities and third party apps are necessary building stones of a federated reddit alternative of size.

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[-] SlothMama@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Lemmy has almost half a million accounts ( 400k ) with over 1.5 million posts. lemmy.world grew by ~30k new accounts in June.

Others grew by single digit thousands, so the migration seems to be about ~50k new users to Lemmy.

That's not trivial, Reddit had those kind of numbers in like 2007. Give it time.

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[-] S_204@lemm.ee 67 points 1 year ago

This is some fomo type shit.... forget about your ex, invest in your current!!!

[-] SHamblingSHapes@lemmy.one 60 points 1 year ago

Their user numbers are available with a web search. Reddit useage dipped towards end of June but has mostly leveled out.

Quite a few mods left, which has had a larger impact than an equal number of general users leaving would. The niche topic sub I was involved in went from four mods to one half-hearted mod. The quality of posts has dropped. Almost every comment thread contains complaints. Reports are piled up.

Most surprising to me when I peeked at the sub this weekend was the amount of borderline-incel desperation and negativity. The sub is for a hobby that while slightly male majority, we had plenty of women contributing with minimal problems. Not anymore. If I were a woman looking at that sub for the first time, I would probably block it. It is so depressing and angry now, I barely recognize it.

[-] nathris@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 year ago

I have to wonder how much of Reddit's traffic is bots and lurkers though.

Post quality is a bigger indicator, and that does seem to be dropping. This is why Reddit banning 3rd party apps was such a big deal. It doesn't matter if 99% of your users use the official app if 99% of the content posted to the side is posted by the 1% that don't.

As someone who was around for the digg migration, it didn't drop off overnight (hell digg.com is still around), but they gradually bled content until everyone was on Reddit. Lemmy right now is very reminiscent of early Reddit.

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[-] alphacyberranger@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly I like Lemmy more and more everyday. It's quality vs quantity when it comes to posts and the users.

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[-] sneezymrmilo@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

The real question is why anyone cares? Move on and just enjoy Lemmy. Forget about reddit.

[-] moistclump@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

I’m torn on this. Because a sort of injustice happened. Do we really just ignore enshitification, try to educate others, reflect and keep an eye on the site while trying to understand what happened and not repeat old mistakes? Or just move on with our lives and hope that the injustices sort themselves out?

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[-] GoddessOfGouda@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Personally I came over bc the app I used stopped working (boost). Lemmy seems to have the same content I used reddit for:

  • US politics headlines
  • Memes
  • Niche communities

I don't plan on going back to reddit unless it's via Boost. Fediverse is better anyway

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[-] AlteredStateBlob@kbin.social 55 points 1 year ago

I feel all those posts about reddit looking for mods for various communities is a good indicator. They might not have lost quantity all that much, but a very small portion of quality kept a lot of reddit interesting and running smoothly. A lot of that has either just dropped entirely engaging or migrated.

I doubt everyone would move. Some people simply take it as a sign to move on and do other things with their limited time on this little planet.

[-] Heisme@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

I see it as a signs of problems to come. Being a Mod sucks, the only reason most hung around was that they were passionate for the subs they moderated. Replacing moderators at first might be easy but I believe, with time, the turnover rate will increase linearly thus causing a massive drop in quality content as time progress. Thus causing a feed back loop of less good users, less good content and more shit users, more shit content, culminating in the slow and painful death Reddit.

[-] laxsill@infosec.pub 52 points 1 year ago

I'm just happy to be here. I care less and less about reddit. Using lemmy and mastodon for a while, it's gotten more and more important to me to just build a great, fun, healthy community and less important (emotionally) to bring down the giants. I still care about it politically and theoretically, I just don't feel it as much.

[-] ComptitiveSubset@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

Fuck Reddit. I’m here now and it’s great.

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[-] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 43 points 1 year ago

The timing of /r/place nullified any possibility evidence of an effect, as a ton of streamer featured this event, creating traffic. I wouldn't be surprised if they got a huge net profit this month.

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[-] HoagieBoy@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Only evidence I have is:
any day of week 1 of using Lemmy I had about 1 page of new stories on my subscribed communities any day of week 2 of using Lemmy I had about 2 pages of new stories on my communities any day of week 3 (this week) I'm at least 4 pages in and still haven't hit on the old stories

[-] AnonymousBaba@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

it was about hurting the reddit ? i thought it was about finding a good alternative

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[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 year ago

I think the damage done to Reddit is not from protests but the bad management decisions -- enshittification as Corey Doctorow put it -- in order to hasten Reddit's IPO. The attitude by upper management, taking user content for granted, is going to continue to serve to chase users away, or drive them to deprioritize engagement with Reddit.

I'm missing only a couple of communities here on Lemmy but otherwise it serves me as a daily feed. And reddit still can be searched for troubleshooting.

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[-] iegod@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What I do know is that I'm happier having left.

[-] Sniatch@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

I really don't care about reddit anymore. I pretty happy with Lemmy right now.

[-] jayemecee@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

The effect is going to be long term. The most active users (usually 10% posters, 1% content creators and mods) were the most affected by the changes. Those are also the most vocal. And, probably the first ones to move here. Once those move reddit content will get worse over time which will make the other users move (89%) too. So yea, don't expect short term impact. It's the long run that matters

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[-] SageWaterDragon@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

No, of course not. If you're using Lemmy as a "protest" instead of thinking that it's a better platform, it's totally ineffectual and you'll go back to using Reddit sooner or later. Personally, I think that the fediverse is a more compelling idea than the traditional internet, so I'm sticking with Lemmy for a bit in one form or another.

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[-] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 1 year ago

It may be my imagination but I think the quality of Reddit posts has severely gone down. There's also noticeably more nazi propaganda.

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[-] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

I don't know if I'd call it a mass exodus, and I don't know that it directly has anything to do with Lemmy, but there's been a noticeable dip in quality. Fewer posts across many of the front page subreddits, fewer votes, more bot posts, more low effort posts, less discussion in comment sections, lots of deleted comments and accounts... overall there just seems to be a dip in quality.

I was going to delete, but decided to stick around for a while first, to see how things pan out, and I've got to say the mobile site is even worse than expected. I get constant pop ups trying to direct me to download the app, then when I say no the website will auto reload, often sending me back to the top of the page. It's difficult to find and respond to anyone who replies to your comments, and sometimes if you sort by top: today it won't even show any posts. Just... blank. Clicking on a post opens it as a tab that is more like a popup, and closing it resets where you were on the page.

I could keep going but I think that pretty much summarizes what I've noticed. Don't know that it's directly related to a Lemmy "exodus," and I'm still finding my way around here so I can't really say, but reddit as we knew it seems pretty dead.

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[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

I suspect their July user metrics will see a hit, but even if all Lemmy activity came directly out of Reddits numbers they would still be a top 10 website in the US by traffic.

You can't have "the downfall of reddit" as a goal, you can only hope for the proliferation of a better experience, hopefully here. Lemmy not dying is preferred over reddit dying.

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[-] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 year ago

We came to Lemmy for our own benefit, not just to fuck with reddit. Who cares if it hurt them or not? We're better off without reddit, and that is all that matters.

[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Again, as long as we're being thoughtful and having fun here, people will come naturally.

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[-] irkli@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Define mass.... The giant Twitter exodus we can now know was maybe 10%, some to mastodon/fedi, the rest who knows. I'd assume the same for Reddit, pending any factual data.

And I suspect that many of those they left Reddit, reddit is better off without -- super touchy argumentative people kinda made a noisy bro-ish pass through, may be starting to calm down now... I hope.

The thing is, to me, to not worry about what "other people" are doing and stfu and build community. Post what you want to read etc. We don't need over 9000 million people we just need the right people who show and contribute and all that.

And so here we are!

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