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[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 92 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

A one day wait period to install an app on your mobile pocket computer. Fucken bullshit.

Edit: to all the "its one time" defenders, its one time for now. Stop falling for it. It always starts with an inch.

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 23 points 3 weeks ago

It used to be no time at all. You could just do it. From that perspective they’ve already taken a mile.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

From zero to any nonzero value is infinite miles

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I mean, it always starts with an inch but what people dont get is that compared to the 2000's we are a mile deep and compared to rhe 80's we are already in a dystopia.

[-] sonofearth@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

sushhh… the shareholders’ imaginary line has to go up.

[-] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Well if you're in the US you can head down to your LGS, buy a Glock 19 and do some plinking while you wait for the software to install on your phone :/

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[-] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 57 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I teach digital literacy and 99% of unsavory software I encounter on people's phones come from the play store or app store

I will believe that they're serious about protecting users when I see them do something about the crap ton of borderline scam solitaire and weather apps infesting their stores

[-] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Your wish is fulfilled. Google now requires the government id, full biometrics and shared gps location to publish apps in the store.

[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

See, that is fine. If Google wants to have a safe and curated, high quality store, (which it doesn't), it is very logical that it would want to have the origins of software very well identified.

AS LONG AS it provides a mechanism for users to access other sources of software.

They are doing the opposite, allow bullshit apps in the "safe store" while hindering the independents.

We desperately need a decently competent OSS phone OS, if possible with a compatibility layer for Android apps.

[-] icedaemon0@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago

Meanwhile the scam apps and viruses in the damn play store: ...

[-] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 26 points 3 weeks ago

"This is Android's new 'advanced flow' for INSTALLING apps without verification". Sideloading is such a bullshit term made only to confuse consumers. They can wrap that in sparkling wrapper, but it's still security theater at best and definetly misleading. Apps from F-Droid or any other app 'store' are not any less safe than the ones at googles own offering.

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[-] markz@suppo.fi 24 points 3 weeks ago

So, the idea is to make the process as annoying as possible.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

No. It's to make it very annoying. It's not as annoying as possible, because it could always be more annoying.

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[-] batshit@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Important to note ADB is still unaffected

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Do usual dev mode shit...

  1. You then have to confirm that you aren’t being coached/guided/instructed by a bad actor to turn off the security measures.

  2. This is followed by a device restart and re-authentication that “cuts off any remote access or active phone calls a scammer might be using to watch what you’re doing.”

  3. A required “Security wait” takes one day to “confirm that this is really you who’s making this change with our biometric authentication (fingerprint or face unlock) or device PIN.” This is a one-time wait.

  4. Afterwards, you can install apps from unverified developers indefinitely, while there’s also a 7-day “Turn on temporarily” option.

I don't think the wait is necessary. If someone were to continue being scammed after a reboot, they'd continue to be scamme tomorrow. An additional education piece after the reboot would be more effective.

Jfc, the apps scammers usually use are on the fucking play store. Good fucking dammit this is stupid.

[-] undrwater@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

This is the salient point that's hard to communicate.

We've moved to fdroid and others because we're trying to avoid the scammers on the Play Store.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

They already showed their hand. Doesn't matter if they've backed down. My new phone is going to use GrapheneOS and if this shit trickles down (Graphene is still based on Android) I'm going full Linux phone.

[-] Sketchpad01@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Graphene has explicitly stated that it will never accept this as a part of their operating system

[-] illi@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

At this point it is a waiting game. My next phone might be Android, but I sure hope the mobile Linux ecosystem is in a good place for the one after that. Preferably I'd switch on nearest opportunity though. I still have some time left in terms of support for my current phone so I have time to think and test the waters.

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[-] kalapala@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

Is there EU petition against this already?

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Stop fucking calling it sideloading. It is called installing an app

[-] osanna@lemmy.vg 7 points 3 weeks ago

Remember when you used to own shit? Wow. This is beyond fucked. Right now, it’s “one day”. But this is only because they got a shit load of backlash for disallowing ALL installing software without their permission. They WILL enact it. They’ll just wait until people are used to this. Then they will disallow it all.

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[-] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"Sideloading"

Aka avoiding the monopoly app store with your own device

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[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

it's very clear we have to escape Android and Google entirely, there is no other option.

Please donate to PostmarketOS if you have the means, it gives us a true alternative that is completely community owned, it just needs our support to become polished and to add support for more phones.

We have to support software that's still made for us. While we still can.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 4 points 3 weeks ago

So it's on the same scale as buying a gun in the states.

I didn't realise it was so dangerous.

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