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[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 75 points 1 week ago
[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 72 points 1 week ago

I don't think most Americans have even heard of de Tocqueville at this point

Which season of The Bachelorette was he on

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 40 points 1 week ago

I'm going to be honest this is the first time I've ever heard of him

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago

They probably have you read a heavily edited quote from Democracy in America and go "This will be on the Scantron, question 5, fill in B"

[-] radio_free_asgarthr@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago

That was my experience. Every time we covered the American Revolution or 18th century America in middle school or high school history he was just name-checked and maybe get a one or two sentence quote from Democracy in America.

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

Of course, the "tyranny of the majority" is written into the laws of the universe, so there's no need to engage with writing on it that tries to present arguments that could thereby be refuted.

[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 71 points 1 week ago

lol, the only things most Americans remember about Vietnam are a mishmash of Rambo, Apocalypse Now, and The Deer Hunter; helicopters with cool background music; and the fake propaganda POWs

[-] WafflesTasteGood@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago

I know people that legitimate believe America won the Vietnam war.

All of them will also explain how you can't ever trust the government because all politicians are liars and crooks, while just taking every speck of state propaganda as absolute truth.

[-] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Just an observation as one of those foreigners …that’s some head trapping shit. If America won that war, if America wins anything, they don’t shut up about it, so why would the government lie?

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago

What I remember about Westmoreland in Vietnam was him saying a bunch of demonically racist stuff about how the don't respect life like The West does

[-] SwitchyandWitchy@hexbear.net 66 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty sure "Americans haven't forgotten how..." is just a polite way of telling us we really really should know this.

[-] JustSo@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

When you try to help the Americans maintain a little dignity and they just go guffawing and a-hicking and thigh slapping all over the place.

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 48 points 1 week ago

Meanwhile the US president seems to be under the impression that Hannibal Lecter was a real person who died

[-] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago

he was a Great Man

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

I spent like the first 20 years of my life thinking Sherlock Holmes and Robin Hood were real dudes

[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

I thought Robin Hood was too, until today. The Wikipedia article about historicity of a figure or figures called Robin Hood is pretty interesting.

[-] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Apart from anything else, the story originates from Doncaster, somehow, not Nottingham. 

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago
[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

Okay sick now what about the Mouseketeers please tell ne they're reall too powercry-1

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

Of course they're real. You just have to believe!

[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

Then from whence the Hannibal Directive?

[-] boboblaw@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

Hannibal Burress, obviously.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Alex is de Tocqueville? What?

Most people haven't read Tolkien, we definitely didn't read Tocqueville.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 41 points 1 week ago

The seed germ of the modern right wing media in the Anglosphere is their reaction to losing the PR war in Vietnam

[-] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 1 week ago

can confirm, i'm american and i haven't read him, i haven't even read locke, i'm a phony, a pseudointellectual

[-] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago

Alexis de Tocqueville sounds like - which I am sure most Americans have noticed - a typical Hufflepuff.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

If there was a French Canadian in a Harry Potter book this is what Joanne would have named em

[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

How about Alex de Tokerville he'll yeah ralsei-doobie

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

Bold of him to assume Americans can read.

[-] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 week ago

How much more on the nose can you get than a western imperialist general named West More Land tbh

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

More Americans have bet money on The Washington Generals to win the NBA (somehow) than have read Alexis de Tocqueville.

[-] Oskolki@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

I wouldn't be surprised if there are people who know this, but they probably either don't dare to speak, benefit from not speaking out or are purged.

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