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open formats is the way to go. Patents seems more and more like a scam
Figures. Patents are the backbone of capitalism. Some say it invented capitalism as we know it.
I mean, I get the idea of patents. If there were no protection of "ideas", some random person could have one, try to bring it to market but could just be outplayed by a big corporation with enough money to copy this idea and sell it everywhere before he can even start production. They have more resources and money, but might not have had that idea. There should be some protection. Problem is, that these are also abused by the big corporations, so... Maybe we need to fix this somehow.
Software algorithms should not be patentable.
Sure for physical things that need prototypes and materials. That is not a thing with software.
Development cost is still a thing with software.
You should be able to own the right to bring a novel idea into production, after it’s generally available then it should have no protection.
Basically if you come up with an idea, you get to get the first initial rounds of profits to make it worth your while, that’s it.
thats a patent
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Patents are a (relatively speaking) newfangled trick to turn ideas into legal "capital." In the same way that a corporation "is" a person.
The backbone of capitalism? I'm not following that.
Patents are a way to spread knowledge, whole still offering some [time limited] protections. Before them, trade secrets were the norm, and way too much knowledge was lost with it's creators.
It's an outdated legalism. 250 years ago, the patent office operated as an incentive to record and register ideas to the public in exchange for exclusive commercial license.
Now that simply isn't an issue
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The patents have expired everywhere except USA, Brazil and Malaysia.
This is a blatant money grab before they expire everywhere.
Wait, is Stallman right again?
AGAIN?
If I come up with a concept in philosophy can I patent it and charge money when people use it in their philosophy? Fees for codecs operate on this plane of backwardness. Patents in and of themselves are stupid enough, but the capacity for stupidity within patenting knows no bounds apparently.
quietly
Stop putting "quietly" in your fucking headlines, you hacks. This wasn't "quiet", it was very publicly announced.
Slammed
slammed
Stop putting "slammed" in your fucking comments, you hacks. This wasn't "the WWE", it was very obviously Lemmy.
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Via LA told Streaming Media that it contacted unlicensed media companies during 2025 to give them “a window to secure a license” under the previous terms, but the company didn’t go to the trouble of issuing a press release or public announcement, opting instead for direct outreach. Any company that didn’t respond or wasn't contacted now faces the new rate structure as its starting point for negotiations.
tiny bit clickbait, small companies are still at $100,000 unchanged
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not that that should exist, either
What could possibly be worth my predicted lifetime worth of earnings?!?
Here's why it doesn't matter:
"AOMedia Video 1 (AV1) is an open, royalty-free video coding format initially designed for video transmissions over the Internet. It was developed as a successor to VP9 by the Alliance for Open Media (AOMedia),[3] a consortium founded in 2015 that includes semiconductor firms, video on demand providers, video content producers, software development companies and web browser vendors."
Here's why it does matter
Most server hardware thats out there right now doesn't support av1 encoding, so all of those, literally tens of thousands of them in thousands of spread out data centers have to be replaced with brand new +$1,500 a pop cards that do support it before they can use it
I was gonna say, I like AV1, but my Plex server says otherwise.
I'm using a 15 year old i5 and a GTX 970, having no issues with AV1 video. Curious what hardware you're running.
Neither of those things support AV1 encoding or decoding. Curious how you’ve come to believe you’re having “no issues” with a codec your hardware has no support for.
You don't need HW acceleration to playback AV1. Maybe they watch most of their content at 720p and are software decoding and it's been good enough.
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I doubt that it's doing real time transcoding in av1, probably just sending the file "as-is" to your client device and you're noticing as modern networks allow real time streaming of files with that size
My server with much newer components does like 5 fps in encoding av1
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Most hardware can't decode it either which is very important. Also it's currently being sued over patents
Most hardware is only really true if you account for older hardware in circulation, most new hardware will be shipping hardware decoder support for AV1.
On top of this, the software decoder support is remarkable for AV1, libdav1d is a marvelous piece of software, bringing access to a plethora of devices lacking hardware decoder support.
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The best part of the article is the very end, even if the site makes it look unrelated.
Avanci's Video pool and Access Advance's Video Distribution Patent pool are both now seeking content royalties from streaming services for the use of HEVC, VVC, VP9, and AV1. Access Advance's rates are capped at roughly $63 million per year, and Avanci has published rates of 1.6% to 2.0% of revenue or $0.12 to $0.15 per user per month.
$4.5 million max for H.264 is rookie numbers vs. the $63 million max for AV1
How does someone seek royalties on an open, royalty-free video coding format?
Can't be too sure about that: https://sh.itjust.works/post/57524423
The whole patent system should just be abolished. And if we can't achieve that, at least software patents.
Nah, we've seen what happens with patents. from medical, to agriculture, to automotive to software. The system isn't working even slightly as originally intended in almost all scenarios and should be dismantled
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Man I can't wait to upgrade my device/GPU with AV1 hardware support
AI slop bubble fart reverb sfx
AMD's XT 7000 series is available for cheap as already a few gens old, or Intel ARC
Thing that bothers me is these guys are claiming to have patents over AV1.
The whole point of av1 is it supposed to be free of this bullshit.
Aye, but AV1 uses math to make the videos smaller, which is the same technology h.264 uses, so clearly it's patent infringement!
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I’m pretty sure most of the H.264 patents expired or are set to expire next year. Maybe it’s one last cash grab before the best codec ever made is liberated
Last attempt to squeeze some money before these formats are abandoned in favor of competition, I guess.
Last attempt to ~~squeeze some money before~~ get these formats ~~are~~ abandoned in favor of competition, I guess.
FTFY
H.264 came out in 2003. Shouldn't the patents associated with it have expired by now? 23 years is more than 20 years from the filing date or else the codec's release itself is prior art. The 17 years from issuance rule ended in 1995. I don't think they can have any Lemelson style submarine patents that are still valid.
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