“It won’t taste any better or worse than the current vegan cheese slices on the market
I'll stick to nooch then, thanks.
nooch fucking rules. I love to absolutely bury a big bowl of popcorn in the stuff
It really goes well with popcorn i've discovered aswell. The other day I even put it on buttered bread instead of cheese, was super delicious actually!
I tried going vegan for a couple of weeks until I tried to find cheese that didn't taste like ass. I actually liked Impossible Meat though. If they can't make it taste better, don't bother.
>I actually liked Impossible Meat though
Why "liked" past tense? Is there something stopping you from eating it now? Last I checked there's nothing in the rules stopping non-vegans from eating vegan products.
Too expensive the last time I checked.
Veganism isn't a diet though. It is a way of life aimed towards excluding consumption of things that result in animal cruelty, exploitation, or death.
I'm not vegan because the vegan cheese is good. I'm vegan because i value life and, among many reasons, the dairy industry is atrocious.
You say if they can't make the vegan cheese taste better then don't bother, which is also problematic. The OP talks about how it is aimed to be more sustainable and mentions current vegan cheeses might use palm oil. Palm oil can be vegan if ethically sourced but the problem with the industry is that is not sustainable and leads to deforestation.
But even if you are not vegan, choosing to eat non-meat and non dairy alternative foods for even some of your meals can have a positive impact on the environment and your health.
I acknowledge that the vegan lifestyle is more ethical, but what about insects? I'm not being facetious.
I read an article that they may be able to grow meat from cloned cells in a lab. Does that change the ethics? I think so.
What about insects? They are animals.
Lab grown meat / cloned cells are still initially extracted from animals. There is inherent exploitation and/or harm done to the animals. Some vegans may believe this utilitarian approach is ok. I do not.
Lab grown meat / cloned cells are still initially extracted from animals. There is inherent exploitation and/or harm done to the animals.
This is such an extreme view that I usually hear from persons not eating mushrooms either because it's some sort of sentient life.
Level 5 vegans, not eating anything that casts a shadow
I have already excluded animal exploitation by not eating meat. Why would i reintroduce animal exploitation by consuming such a product?
It's really not that extreme. And in my comment, the part you didn't quote, i acknowledged some vegans may think the trade off is worth it, but i do not.
But thanks for the disingenuous mushroom nonsense. I love it when meat eaters come into a vegan space to insult me
That's my point with why it is an extreme point of view, taking a cell from an animal would hardly anyone call exploitation. The ones I hear argue in that way are those who don't eat mushrooms because of aforementioned reason, and I guess not yeast either. I mean really?
I left that out yes, because it's irrelevant? Glad you love when meat eaters come into a vegan space to insult you. Weird thing to say and I'm unsure what it has to do with anything.
never heard of anyone not eating mushrooms
I've met several, albeit all but one had an allergy 😄 the one didn't eat mushrooms because he perceived them as a sentient lifeform
Sure, but other than this one guy, it's not a thing.
So almost pointless bringing individuals foibles into this conversation.
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Would be nice, if we'd find a way to actually put proteins into there. Feels quite pointless to eat vegan cheese, when it's just starch and fat. Might as well eat some more bread at that point. Or, you know, snack some nuts...
Good to see. Coconut oil is in so many processed vegan products, so it would be big bonus for peoples health if it was replaced by something better.
I thought vegetable oil is soy oil. Yet I was always confused because soy isn't a vegetable.
Now they're saying sunflower oil and rapeseed oil are vegetable oils. And neither are vegetables too.
And I always saw rapeseed oil referred to as "canola oil", not vegetable oil.
I'm so confused.
soy isn’t a vegetable
Vegetable is a loosely defined culinary term, not botanical. "Plant-derived" would be more appropriate.
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