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submitted 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) by Reannlegge@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

I originally thought it was an excessive amount of letters to describe those of us under the rainbow but no, it makes more sense in the context of the article I do not really agree with combining the two but to each their own I guess.

MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+ stands for missing and murdered Indigenous women, girls, two-spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex and asexual+. It's derived in part from the more commonly used initialisms MMIWG (missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls) and 2SLGBTQ+.

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[-] Hazzard@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

Colour me crazy, but I've always thought the temptation to explicitly add more and more letters to these kinds of acronyms was a little counterproductive (referring to 2SLGBTQIA+). Like... I remember when it was LGBTQ+. The plus was meant to represent all sexualities. Listing 5 items felt like more than enough to clearly convey the nature of the list.

But then when you go and explicitly pull some group out of the plus to better represent them, I always wondered what that implicitly said about those not explicitly pulled out. Like suddenly groups in the plus feel less important, because we've taken out the special highlighter for some. So I'm not surprised that more sexualities got loud and demanded to be added as well, further watering down the nature of that "plus". I feel a little bad for those in the plus when it's considered in poor taste to say anything shorter than 2SLGBTQIA+.

But I guess that's just how naming by committee works, it's hard to convince a group of people who want to be explicitly included about the implicit downsides for others. I suspect the initialism will only get longer rather than ever becoming any shorter.

[-] wraekscadu@vargar.org 4 points 1 hour ago

Classic case of champagne socialism smh. As someone from the "MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+" community, I would be much more excited to see housing, groceries, utilities, etc. go down while healthcare, education labor laws etc get strengthened.

I want to see strong, clear policies being presented by NDP politicians that I can talk about with friends and family and get them to vote orange, so that the above happens.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 hours ago

Holy fuck, no offense but there's no way I'm going to remember that long of an acronym. It's just going to keep extending, isn't it? Why not just pick or make up a word for it and just include all the groups under there?

[-] brianpeiris@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

I mean, no one is forcing you to memorize it.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 hours ago

Did you read the text? It’s two acronyms. Like ROFLMAO.

[-] malle_yeno@pawb.social 10 points 5 hours ago

Gazan calls the pushback a distraction from the continued violence facing Indigenous women and girls, two-spirit and gender diverse people, along with federal funding cuts to programming aimed at prevention.

And I think the fact that we're focusing on an acronym and not the funding cuts that are at the center of the discussion proves that she's correct.

[-] brianpeiris@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

So this whole story exists because the bigots came out of the woodwork to squee at the acronym? Good then, let them show themselves and burn in the sunlight. The acronym did its job.

[-] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 13 points 7 hours ago

While I understand the motivation of wanting to support the rights of marginalized groups in society, a term that encompasses all of those groups would be far too unwieldy to be practical or readily recognized.

Solidarity between marginalized groups can be achieved with a term more marketable than an alphabet soup.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I'm not going to get upset at anyone using however many letters to describe an inclusive, group, all of them in the alphabet if they wish. Though if I were in her place I personally would just say MMIWG+, where + is other humans.

Like I think it's bigotry when insisting on removing letters as a policy clearly motivated on exclusion, but in normal conversation, using GBLT+, 2S+, LGBTQ+ etc. for brevity when you are referring to all forms of gender expression, I also won't get upset.

*Upon some more thought, why not just focus on the plus as the banner? Gender expression is a spectrum and unique to each of us. Gender+ (which would be inclusive of agender ppl btw) and Sexuality+ or Romance+ sound pretty cool to my ears, so we can talk about it like an upgrade to people's life and freedom, not needing to conform to cis, binary and heterosexualism, and then we don't have to fit people into one of a myriad of categories we force ourselves to create?

[-] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

If they wanna sing the whole alphabet song remix every time this comes up, that’s on them but shitting on people who criticize the lack of a stable core idea that can be carried across conversations for years in a concise matter as bigots seems counterproductive not only for the people on the fence but also for those on either side of that argument.

The fact this comes from a representative of the only party that has some hope to unfuck things around here makes it so much worse imo.

[-] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 hours ago

Some may see the alphabet soup and snidely think the gays are expanding along a slippery slope yet again. But the acronym is specifically referencing people who are missing or murdered AND are (indigenous) women or gender or sexual minorities. It's 2 acronyms put together in order to include the queer community in a specific cause. If you have a strong reaction to it, you're probably experiencing internalized bigotry planted by the right.

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 0 points 7 hours ago

For those of us who live in reality, yeah they really are this nuts:

What Actually Happened At the NDP Convention 2026

https://youtu.be/aUVrrlArqjM?t=114

MY EQUITY CARD!?! 😡

this post was submitted on 11 Apr 2026
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