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submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by cannedtuna@lemmy.world to c/memes@sopuli.xyz

Edit: As @bdonvr@thelemmy.club points out below

  1. This is just a mascot and is not a new logo
  2. The blog referencing Mozilla’s statement on the mascots gender says, (he/she/they/them/it), use whatever pronoun you prefer.
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[-] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 207 points 6 days ago

The gender orientation of the firefox logo is something I haven't thought about ever.

What's the point of this?

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 76 points 6 days ago

The point is that you've fallen for some idiots on X making up culture war bullshit.

Kit's supposed pronouns aren't mentioned by Mozilla anywhere in any Mozilla announcements.

One news site attributes this quote to Mozilla

Kit (he/she/they/them/it) is the user’s constant companion. Wherever they choose to roam, Kit will accompany and guide them with clever, playful encouragement and support — giving the user the confidence to run free.

That's the one and only place that even remotely mentions it as far as I can tell. And it's not even a statement that it's NB or they/them... More like it's a fictional mascot call it what you want.

[-] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 21 points 6 days ago

Mozilla uses "they're" to refer to Kit, but other than that there's no explicit statement at all.

Kit is a companion, not a commentator. They’re not here to deliver punchlines. Kit shows up as a small signal that Firefox is working for you, then steps back so you can keep moving.

[-] JayGray91@piefed.social 9 points 6 days ago

I used "they" etc. when I don't know the gender of the person I'm talking about. I feel like that's the safest assumption.

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[-] wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

True, it was just "a fox" for me so far. I didn't really care about the gender of a drawing. I guess it is a good awareness move though

[-] errer@lemmy.world 49 points 6 days ago

Feels like a publicity stunt more than a genuine attempt to include non-binary people.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 days ago

It isn't, though. They never said that the mascot was non-binary.

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[-] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 10 points 6 days ago

To me, this feels more like a PR move than an awareness move. Kind of like: "We don't wanna do anything substantial so uuuuh let's just make our logo non-binary".

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[-] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

It's a distraction from the real important issue, which is...

...what does the fox say? /j

[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 15 points 6 days ago
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[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago

Well, if I was creating a mascot, and I didn't want to think about their gender orientation... they/them pronouns are what I would use. Mozilla actually didn't announce the mascot's gender. People just saw they/them pronouns and made the inference from there.

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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 80 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

By the way this is NOT a new Firefox logo. It's just the fox mascot drawing that may be used in other parts of the UI like the welcome screen after a new install, or on social media.

The actual logo remains unchanged.

On top of that nowhere in the announcement are the supposed pronouns mentioned: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/meet-kit/

Actually the whole thing may be bullshit. Literally the only Mozilla reference I can find to Kit's pronouns is a statement given to like one or two blogs, and it says that any pronoun is acceptable.

Kit (he/she/they/them/it) is the user’s constant companion. Wherever they choose to roam, Kit will accompany and guide them with clever, playful encouragement and support — giving the user the confidence to run free.

That's attributed to Mozilla here: https://www.neowin.net/news/firefox-has-killed-its-old-mascot-heres-what-the-new-cute-one-looks-like/

All other references seem to be chuds on X claiming that it's explicitly they/them and acting like Mozilla is making a big deal about that. As if it matters either way.

If you had some kind of reaction to this post you've fallen for culture war bullshit propaganda, congratulations.

[-] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

Solid sleuthing there. Edited the post to include your context.

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[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 77 points 6 days ago

Firefox is now exclusive to ternary computers.

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[-] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 52 points 6 days ago

What if.... hear me out.... what if we remove the focus on gender altogether? What if we stop engendering things that don't have genders? Like logos... and behavioral attributes...

[-] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

Since Mozilla actually didn’t and the post is based on a lie, I’ll say congratulations, your reaction is almost certainly what they were hoping for

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[-] NostraDavid@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago

Just don't go as extreme as trying to de-gender languages, like Spanish, which is a gendered language (as are several others):

There is no latinx, only latina and latino. Whoever uses latinx unironically can fuck right off, for being an ignorance cringelord.

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[-] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 5 days ago

Has anyone even thought about the gender of the original?

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

Why would you even bother?

Everyone knows the original was a hetro white male.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 38 points 6 days ago

Waterfox needs to catch up with a gender-fluid fox

[-] anugeshtu@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Wait, there is a Waterfox? Is there also an Earth and Air fox? Then we could have an AvatarFox!

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[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

At risk of being abrasive...

I see blue checkmarks, I downvote. Nothing personal. But I don't want to support that even indirectly.

[-] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

Eh at this point I'm just sick and fucking tired watching sexuality become nothing but marketing bait. People's sexuality and gender are becoming nothing but a two cent market gimmick and it's fucking insulting.

This isn't cool representation! It's hey lgbtq people your stupid and fucking easy. Look we can use the right words. Trust us and buy our shit.

It's just the fucking corporatization of rainbows in June all over again.

[-] NostraDavid@programming.dev 3 points 4 days ago

watching sexuality become nothing but marketing bait.

This is what I figured what would happen once people started pushing for more explicit sexuality acceptance. This is the bed they made.

Trust us and buy our shit.

This is also due to people inside said corporations pushing for this shit due to ideological reasons.

*some LGBT:* Give us the positive attention and validation that we crave! *Large Corporations, seeing opportunities:* OK *some LGBT:* No, not like that!

Again, welcome to their bed.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It's not just corporations. It's influencer-grifters like Pirat_Nation.

...And, to be blunt, reposters who further spread the ragebait, like OP.

The platforms, ultimately, are what facilitate "marketing bait." But I dunno what to do about that, as human being simply cannot help themselves once they see stuff like that. It works, apparently.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

"Becoming" as though "sex sells" hasn't been a thing for literally as long as we've had the concept of commerce…

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[-] nightlily@leminal.space 6 points 5 days ago

Good instinct. Pirat_Nation is a grifter/ragebaiting account. No one should be giving him visibility.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I mean, yeah... It's a blue checkmark account.

At this point, if you're paying for extra engagement on Twitter, that is beyond "benefit of the doubt." It seems safe to assume its some kind of attention farm.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 25 points 6 days ago

The old one was also non-binary. Prove me wrong.

(Honestly, I just don't care. Load the web page and render some JavaScript already)

[-] Xatolos@reddthat.com 9 points 6 days ago

Just search for "Firefox Chan". And maybe keep on SafeSearch too...

[-] Cypher@aussie.zone 9 points 6 days ago

And maybe keep on SafeSearch too…

No, I don't think I will

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[-] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

mascots gender says

It's a fucking red panda.

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[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 6 days ago

Isn't the old mascot/logo completely non-gendered already?

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[-] normonator@lemmy.ml 29 points 6 days ago

That's stupid, it was genderless before until they brought it up.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago

Mozilla didn't bring it up. The story is made up by right-wing trolls.

[-] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 20 points 6 days ago

Are telling me they fired the previous mascot to hire a gender minority? Smh

[-] kshade@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

It's a fox. I like the fox.

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[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 days ago

It uses qubits sorry. Get a quantum computer loser

[-] artifex@piefed.social 21 points 6 days ago

Maybe it’s meant to run on the old Soviet Setun platform.

[-] markz@suppo.fi 19 points 6 days ago

I never knew or thought about the old one's gender.

[-] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

Non-binary PC is just a quantum computer innit?

[-] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 26 points 6 days ago

No, ternary exists. We could have built computers with triodes.

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[-] heliotrope@retrofed.com 13 points 6 days ago

I have a friend IRL called Kit, who also happens to use they/them pronouns.

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 10 points 6 days ago

Because it was what before? Why do we care about the gender identity of the fox mascot of a web browser?

Don’t answer, please

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