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[-] besbin@lemmy.ml 49 points 5 days ago

That's some beautifully written words. Gonna save that for later.

[-] Tormato@hexbear.net 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

One of the very best eviscerations I’ve ever seen. And just what we needed, since Taibbi went to pasture, fumbling the torch of the great Hunter Thompson.

Send this Oliver cat some love. Saw this a month ago and checked his Substack. Not a lot of action. He’s clearly got the goods to do some verbal wrecking of the 1% and the capitalist ghouls.

[-] Bloefz@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago
[-] octobob@lemmy.ml 39 points 5 days ago

Everyone should dodge the draft. I'd rather go to prison than serve

[-] RosaLuxemburgsGhost@lemmy.ml 22 points 5 days ago

Only serve the army of the working class.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 34 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

the country swears so hard this isn't them that they have to come up with a way to blame russia without realizing trump is as usian as apple pie.

[-] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 36 points 5 days ago

Honestly the draft dodging is the only thing I give him credit for and that's just because it was an imperialist war.

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 22 points 5 days ago

It's the one thing I won't criticize about him, even if he did it for purely selfish self-serving reasons. I won't give him credit for it either but I'll never criticize someone for not joining the US military

[-] human@slrpnk.net 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I agree, but he didn't get out of it because of any moral objection to the war itself, he used his privilege to to get himself out of something he didn't want to do while other people who equally didn't want to go were shipped off to the meat grinder against their will. Not saying he should have gone, but we're not talking about a conscientious objector here.

[-] TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id 8 points 5 days ago

That would have required a conscience, and we all know this fat orange fuck is one hundred percent Jiminny Cricket free.

[-] EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Nah, that's privileged bone spurs. Fuck that.

At least when my father did it he pulled an Alice's Restaurant, which was likely very true for him, claiming everyone would be the enemy if he was forced to go. This was before AR was a folk legend btw, it just so happened that he was one of many who made that approach, it may have been common knowledge at the time.

Anyway that fascist clown deserves no credit for anything. Fuck everything he's done, fuck him entirely.

[-] foreverknew@lemmy.zip 16 points 5 days ago

Yeah, that part didn't sit well with me either. How does refusing to throw away your life for a nation state's interest and to being instrumentalized to harm and kill others constitute cowardice?

Starting a war when you yourself dodged the draft is definitely evidence of hypocrisy, moral bankruptcy and just pathetic.

But people refusing to be pawns in some belligerent leaders wargame is far from cowardice.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Well, he didn’t do it for any lofty ideals like that I’m sure

[-] foreverknew@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Sure, he just wanted to save his skin (Which is not cowardly either, in my opinion).

However, the OP said "the cowardice of a draft dodger" which reads like a generalized statement. Also all other listed groups are reprehensible, putting draft dodgers in there is just weird.

Edit: I'm cool with bar stool drunks as long as they don't spew evil bullshit, to be clear

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago

Yeah but imagine how funny it would be for him to die in vietnam

[-] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago

It could still happen

[-] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

What if part of why his ego is permanently crippled is that he was forced to fake bone spurs to avoid getting pulled in with McNamara's 100,000?

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Well, he's an imperialist and is one of a handful of people that SHOULD have gone to fight in that war, if the world was fair at least.

[-] Revolutionary_Apples@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 days ago

'stupidity passed off as common sense' this has plagued me my whole life.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

the cowardice of a draft dodger

Literally the only good thing this man has ever done with his life is to duck out of the Vietnam War.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

What if he’d have gotten killed there, though? That would have been good

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml -5 points 5 days ago

He also legalized hemp, enacted project warp speed, banned bump stocks, rescheduled cannabis, stopped production of the penny, and opened the door to researching and possible legalization of psychedelics. But that's kinda the whole list. Granted some of those were through extra-legal means, and some were reversed by his own judges.

[-] EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

For every one of those things mentioned, his only motivation were to benefit him, which also happened to be seen as a boon to society.

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

Sure.

He's a monster with deplorable policies and beliefs, a blight on humanity, and deserving of some brutal comeuppance, but that doesn't mean he's done nothing of benefit. Denying that vile people don't occasionally do something right is a great way to grow calloused against humanity in general which will make it difficult to form actual genuine connections with others--something that's necessary if we're gonna build a better world from this.

I personally try not to deny reality when having discussions with others.

[-] EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

While I agree entirely, I stand by my assessment of that malignant narcissist. He has never expressed true empathy or caring for anyone but himself, his family and his devotees. Nothing he's ever done was motivated by anything other than how it benefits him. Not a single act.

[-] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

No need to use medicalized language, you can say asshole. Lots of people are diagnosed as narcissists without doing or wanting to do any of the disgusting shit he did and does. We need to avoid stigmatizing people for their mental conditions, it's the actions that count and plenty of people act monstrously because of systemic reasons rather than brain chemistry or whatever.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 5 days ago

Malignant narcissist

[-] EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

I upvoted this comment then went out to pull weeds from my retaining wall, considering it much of the time. IThe vast majority of clinical narcissists are rooted in social conditioning, comparatively few medical. There's no reason to hold any sort of empathy or extra consideration for these people. Call them out. Especially the narcissist rapist in chief.

[-] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

I'm close friends with a woman with NPD and she's nothing like that. Whether we're born or conditioned to be narcissists the word is still heavily misused and I'm troubled by this kind of assertion because (again) they're more likely to be victims than abusers.

[-] EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Well okay then, that's worth noting and being aware of. Thank you for that.

[-] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

Thank you for being so kind and receptive

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Idk about the valiance of a bunch of those. A couple - banning bump stocks, rescheduling cannabis, psychedelics - were on rails from prior admins. I really don't know about Project Warp Speed, given how he immediately tore the wiring of the program out in his second term. I guess I'll spot you the penny.

If I was going to point to anything during his time in office, it was the Afghanistan withdrawal. Except that... glances at the half dozen other wars he started... idk if that gets to count on the balance.

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago

Unfortunately he is actually president.

[-] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago

And now also the Antichrist!

[-] pfunk1978@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Garbage in, garbage out.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Chomo Caligula

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Why you gotta be mean to me?

[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Holy shit that was beautiful.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Maybe your America.

I actually do what I can to take care of my neighbors, and I don't vote Democrat or Republican.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

oh my god trump is a tulpa and this is why he won't fucking die!

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