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[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago

How many condemnations are we at now? I lost count.

None of this matters. Nobody is doing a thing and you can't bring back the dead. Fuck Israel.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Seriously. And the approval rate of netanyahu is like 90 percent there. Like shit man, what the fuck do you even do? None of this ends without world powers openly declaring cold war style measures at the very least. Trade embargo’s are great if its cuba, but heaven forbid you stop giving literal aid to a country doing a genocide. What the fuck.

Edit: I was wrong. No idea where I got that number from.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And the approval rate of netanyahu is like 90 percent there

What?!

https://www.opinionsandratings.com/israel-polls/general-stories/israel-election-opinion-polls

The current faction hasn't had the votes in years...

That's why Bibi keeps canceling elections, if there's an election then his party loses, hes a normal citizen again, and his corruption case (that he's clearly guilty) finally goes to trial...

You're right to be upset, but I have no fucking clue where you're getting your information from.

Can you source that 90% approval rating you're spreading?

Edit:

To be clear, there's a 99.9999% Bibi cancels the 2026 elections like he has every year since he cancelled the 2022 elections.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah after like some light googling I realize I was entirely wrong. It must have been on some specific issue that I was against and absolutely fucked up in my big dumb head. But you’re right. Thank you, some faith restored in my worldview now.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

First, murica needs to stop giving them carte blanche, see if they smell the coffee...if they don't...let them fight their wars alone and see if being hated and feared is enough to stay safe...

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

We give them a pass because they bribe our politicians via campaign contributions through AIPAC.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it certainly is a uniparty in that respect...

[-] baka@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Fuck Israel

[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

No one's doing anything about it because you can't have a conversation without people shutting down if you're not 100% aligned with their point of view.

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I do think I get what you're insinuating. People equivocate their language when speaking about the State of Israel because disingenuous players will say, "THAT'S ANTISEMITIC" because they're trying to trip you up and make you sound like you're talking about Jewish people and not Israel.

At this point, however, I think that Israeli citizens who are turning a blind eye to the issues are just as guilty as Germans who did the same. Moreover, I would extend this indictment to fellow American Citizens who aren't doing anything.

[-] Akh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yep, as long as the bombs and money keep flowing to them they do not care

[-] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

The only condemnation that will be effective will have a megaton rating

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I don't condone mass murder nor genocide nor any other weapon of mass destruction, even if the target is a vile government.

Just like here in the US, there are many, many people who are in utter disgust with how the things are going yet have ZERO control or ability to change the government other than vote and speak up. I'm sure there are still some people there who fight back. My ex, a photojournalist living in East Jerusalem spent the last 25+ years doing exactly that - granted she's Jordanian married to a Palestinian, but she lives inside Israel. Should she be targeted by a bomb?

[-] bearboiblake@pawb.social 7 points 1 week ago

Israel must be dissolved. They will soon pivot to "oh, but we can just change the government! This particular government was evil, but we can replace them with the good guys and go back to supporting Israel", do not let them trick you. This is a genocidal, fascistic ethnostate from the top down. The entire purpose of the project of Zionism has been one of ethnic cleansing from the very start. Israel has got to go, forever, to be a historical footnote for school kids to learn about and say "never again".

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

The more I read about Israel's behavior, the more anti-zionist I become.

One thing however needs to be made clear however:

Anti-zionism is not antisemitism.

Don't let the propaganda convince you otherwise.

There are plenty of jews who hate what Israel is doing and what it has become.

[-] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 0 points 1 week ago

My line has been, and will always be:

The most antisemitic thing you can say is that Jew = Zionist.

It's not racial to be a sociopathic genocidal monster bent on control and domination.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Indeed.

Claiming that criticism of Zionism is anti-Semitism is claiming that the things that Zionists do are typical Jewish things to do. In other words, that it's a Jewish trait to:

  • See themselves as inherently superior to all others not of their ethnicity
  • Be extremelly racist, especially towards Muslims
  • Think that those born in specific ethnicities are "vermin"
  • Violently attack those of ethnities they see as "vermin" for no other reason than their ethnicity
  • Steal from those of ethnities they see as "vermin"
  • Calously murder civilians of ethnities they see as "vermin", including purposelly murdering children
  • Rape civilians of ethnities they see as "vermin"
  • Starve to death civilians of ethnicities they see as "vermin"
  • Commit Genocide
  • Run child sex honeypots for the purpose of gathering kompromat

and more.

In summary in light of the acts openly commited by those Zionists who have the power to freely act according to their ideology and the support of other Zionists for those acts, calling criticism of Zionism anti-semitism is the same as saying that the Jewish People as a whole are basically modern day NAZIs with different ubermenschen and untermenschen than the original NAZIs.

In summary, conflating Zionistm with the Jewish People as a whole and thus implying that being a Jew is to think and act similarly to NAZIs is indeed

The most antisemitic thing you can say

[-] bufalo1973@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

Saying "Jew = Zionist" is like saying "German = Nazi".

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

85% of Jewish people support the continued existence of Israel. So you're less than 15% right about that, but you're not completely wrong.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

One thing however needs to be made clear however:

Anti-zionism is not antisemitism.

Why does that need to be your first concern? I dont know think accusations of anti semitism are particularly importtant in light of everything else going on. Someones feelings got hurt? oh no, lets stop talking about the murder of journalists and aid workers and get right on that antisemitism thing, because thats somehow got to come before everything else.

[-] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Genuinely this.

The label antisemitic has been so sullied its unrecoverable, get in line and be discriminated against by bigotry like everyone else. You aren't special.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

People lose their livelihood over antisemitism and the zionists know this and use it as a cudgel.

[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

That's just fucking evil. Just pure irrational hatred.

A whole damn country full of psychopaths?

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean, they invented a religion that places them as God's chosen people, with a history of genocides and claiming regions backed up by that god. They wrote their stories as the victors and somehow still manage to sound like the bad guys.

Psychopathy was probably rife in the 12'tribes and I wouldn't be surprised if it started with their dad, Jacob the maid fucker. Actually, probably his granddad, Abraham, the guy willing to kill his son to please god.

Either way, it's been like this for centuries and don't expect the country to suddenly change any time soon. The divine claim to the "land of milk and honey" has been their long-time casus belli for annihilating entire cities and civilisations + now with US protection!

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I mean, they invented a religion that places them as God’s chosen people

Can you name a single religion whose creators didn't?

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

I think most don't, and even in Judaism it's the more ethno-nationalist (i.e. Zionist) adherents that believe it. Christian nationalists and evangelicals do, but I don't think Protestants or Catholics do. And outside of Abrahamic religions, like Hinduism, at most it's kind of a "we're right you're wrong but idgaf", unless again you're getting into Hindu ethno-nationalism, but then the religion is just an excuse for facism and genocide, which brings us back around again.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 week ago

Israel != Judaism

Israel is a British/American colonial project, not a religious thing

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

A whole damn country full of psychopaths?

The current government has cancelled four elections in a row because literally anyone else would easily win...

And the period before Bibi was six years of political upheaval.

Blaming all of Israel for Bibi is like blaming all of America for trump.

Even if those countries were actually fair democracies that doesn't mean everyone agrees with their government

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

On the other hand the responses of Israelis in opinion polls are not encouraging. From last July:

Personal response to the reports from Gaza: From examining the conduct of the state, we moved to a more personal question, asking: “To what extent are you personally troubled or not troubled by the reports of famine and suffering among the Palestinian population in Gaza?” A very large majority of Jewish respondents reported that they are not so troubled or not at all troubled personally by events in Gaza (79%), while the majority of Arabs said that they are very troubled or somewhat troubled (86%).

In the Jewish sample, we found no difference by gender (with 80% of women and 78% of men not troubled), while in the Arab sample we found that women are more troubled than men by the situation in Gaza (women, 92%; men, 80%).

https://en.idi.org.il/articles/60357

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Any time an opinion survey gives 4 options with no neutral answer and then lumps the responses into two categories...

A little alarm bell should go off in your head.

There's also the last part of that section:

On this question as well, we found a much greater degree of concern on the Left for the suffering and hunger in Gaza than in the Center and on the Right.

And now we're getting I to how Bibi's repeated cancelation of elections and open immigration for hard right e tremists and virtually no one else to juice those numbers.

I couldn't find a link to the poll, but it could be the vast majority of that 79% are effected by the standard psychological effects of how that survey was set up that anyone that stumbled past a grad level statistical analysis lecture in a drunken stupor would notice....

In fact, that set off so many of my alarm bells, I took two seconds to click the "about" section, see the guy running it also runs Home Depot, rembered how pro-Israel they are and even found you a source....

https://brusselsmorning.com/does-home-depot-back-israel-role-of-co-founder-bernie-marcus/77666/

You fell for propaganda...

They're intentionally doing surveys that overstate Bibi's support bro.

You think you're hurting them, but you're doing what Israel wants right now, you're spreading their propaganda unintentionally...

[-] thebasementcakes@leminal.space 4 points 1 week ago

Every interview should start with "do you condemn Israel?"

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Death to Israel. Zero right to exist.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

When I'm in a being evil competition, and my opponent is The State of Israel:

shocked squidward

[-] voaw@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Israelis are the inventors of the “double tap” tactic to take out rescue workers, medical workers, and even more civilians, the people who are helping. It’s absolutely sick. Oh and Obama utilized and popularized this tactic during his regime during which he dropped over 26,000 bombs on seven different countries (but don’t let the “vote blue no matter who” crowd know or they’ll attack me).

[-] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Stop condemning zios. Start killing them, wherever you find them.

Nothing done to any zio can ever be unethical.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

As if they fucking care about being condemned.

[-] bampop@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Israel treats journalism as a crime" isn't a condemnation, it's a gross understatement. You don't drop bombs on criminals and then bomb Red Cross workers trying to get them out of the rubble and shoot up an ambulance taking them to hospital. It's hard to find words to describe how deeply evil the everyday actions of Israel are and people are constantly making it sound like some mild transgression.

[-] brownsugga@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Another day, another dozen war crimes

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago

Israel treats journalism as a crime,

How about Israel treats journalists like nazis treated Jews?

[-] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nuke Israel. Seriously. Put it on bumper stickers. Make it some kind of new age kids slang. I would love to see what we can do if they redirect dipshit MAGAt rage at Israel

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Stop. You have no idea what you're talking about. The nuclear fallout would not just affect Israel.

Go educate yourself.

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