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[-] 0t79JeIfK01RHyzo@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You can

You can also assume you are compromised and use a solution like a Faraday cage. If you're trying to detect advanced spyware, it might be better to check network activity from outside the device like what network activity is the router managing for the computer.

[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 days ago

FWIW, if you suspect your machine has been compromised, the binaries for common tools like ps and top shouldn't be relied upon since those probably were tampered with to hide the malicious program from the output. At that point, you'd probably want to check each running process manually under /proc/.

[-] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago

As of AV software I would like to point to ClamAV and Rkhunter.
Both should be available in most distro's package repository.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

@RavenofDespair@lemmy.ml to add to this; you can use a firewall that's aware of what your systems is trying to contact. pfsense does this in their premium products and i've heard ubiquiti starting doing this as well.

[-] practisevoodoo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

It depends on the level of mistrust you're willing to entertain but the short version is; no, you cannot be sure.

Ken Thompson's 1983 talk, Reflections on trusting trust is the classic talk on just why you cannot be sure.

[-] doodoo_wizard@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago

Slap the top of the pc and exclaim “no spyware in this thing”.

[-] toynbee@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago

What if I accidentally say "this baby can fit so many spywares in it" instead?

[-] Nyadia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago

Then you've unwittingly installed Windows 11

[-] doodoo_wizard@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

If you say that you gotta strap it down first for safety.

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Honestly if you're at the point of suspecting that your Linux system is infected, just back everything up, wipe, and reinstall. Make sure to use a known good computer to make the install disk, and completely wipe the drive before install and not use existing partitions.

People have mentioned Wireshark which you can use to monitor for suspicious network activity, but IMO for most people this isn't super helpful because it's hard to tell what's suspicious and what's normal from Wireshark alone without quite a bit of networking/software knowledge. Maybe there's more user friendly packet capture software though, something that can string the packets together into their respective connections and summarise key information like the protocol and domain involved.

QDirStat can visualize the contents of your drive as an interactive map. Might be helpful for finding files that aren't supposed to be there.

ClamAV is an open source antivirus available for Linux but I don't know how well it does at actually detecting Linux malware. Seems to be more for people running file/email servers to scan incoming file uploads.

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

DNS whitelist firewall on a router. Deny everything that is not whitelisted by address and port.

[-] ranzispa@mander.xyz 7 points 3 days ago

Most spyware traffic likely goes through ports 80 and 443 anyway. A firewall on the router won't help there.

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

With a DNS whitelist, all incoming packets are dropped unless the address is on the list. It is like ad block, but reversed. You are not blocking known ad servers, but all servers except those you actually want to connect to. It is a pain in the ass to look at logs and white list all the time. In reality, you only visit around a hundred sites or less that you actually need or want to connect to. Nothing gets in except what you want. That kills most vulnerabilities.

[-] doodoo_wizard@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

op, if you can’t see any spyware it’s probably fine.

[-] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

You can never be sure there is no spyware because if your infected a sufficiently advanced spyware can hide itself.

In theory you can use a liveCD to scan your OS for specious signs but if someone has written bespoke spyware for you it may be hard to detect as it won't match any of the signatures.

[-] AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Bucket of water

Can't have spyware if the computer doesn't even work

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Use saltwater, that'll work instantly..

[-] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 4 points 3 days ago

run a barebones environment with a trusted minimal operating system (that's freebsd/netbsd/slackware for me)

[-] Cyber@feddit.uk 2 points 3 days ago

Is this a specific PC, or a general question?

All spyware needs to get the info to the spy somehow, so as others have said, it's probably best to watch the network traffic.

But also - not so much for home, more for an office - look out for keyloggers and weird physical devices attached to the PC, they can be sending data via other methods.

And prevention is better than cure, get a good antimalware installed - and perhaps something which only allows known good (allow listing), rather than blocking known bad (block listing).

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago
[-] brownmustardminion@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Some of the other comments got me curious...

Is there a way to print the most recent accessed files (and time accessed and by which user) within a specific directory to terminal?

[-] smileyhead@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Spyware can alter the database of accessed files.

[-] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago

If you bootstrap your software from source code and use white listing at the kernel level and in your interpreters. Then there is no place where spyware could exist and run.

[-] rangber@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

But then your hardware may have malware embedded in it from supply chain risk. So gotta start soldering the motherboard yourself just to be safe.

[-] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Firmware and microcode are just software unless you are talking about a Nexus Intruder Program style attack; in which case you are fucked even if you solder your own hardware. You’ll need to figure out how to bootstrap your own lithography without using any existing computers, as they could be subtly subverting any hardware that you made. (This was the ultimate weapon against Soviet computers after all)

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