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[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

The pedophile class is building a mass surveillance prison for their working class genocide project.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago

Are they seriously nursing both 0 and O on their license plates? I guess they're also using I l and 1?

I'm guessing that they have quite a few more problems with misidentification

FFS, use base53 and be done with the problem

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago

They're probably just using the cheapest OCR to capture the plates.

[-] LuminousLuddite@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Pretty soon ebikes in California will need a license plate and more people will become vulnerable to this unconstitutional surveillance network.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 hours ago

There's another Colorado guy that showed up on the news for the same thing who I heard about this week on a podcast. Even after the cops confirmed he wasn't the guy with the plate they were looking for they said they can't remove him as a suspect until they actually find the other guy.

https://youtu.be/UJJYeORWXK4?t=606

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 62 points 17 hours ago

The mistake is not hers. A suspect’s license plate was entered incorrectly—mixing up a zero and the letter O—and her completely valid plate now matches that bad entry in the system. To be clear, her plate is correct. The error exists in the database. The camera reads her plate correctly, matches it to the incorrect entry, and flags her as a suspect every single time.

So why hasn't the police department corrected it? This lady should sue tf out of the PD.

[-] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 25 points 17 hours ago

A super simple fix is to just issue her a new license plate. A better fix is to have a license plate lettering schema that makes it impossible to have substitution errors - predictable numeric/alpha positions, skipping easily confused letters/numbers (0/O, 1/I, 2/Z, and I think a couple more), etc. An extra layer in either case is that before an arrest warrant or any judge order is written, there needs to be a proper second evaluation of the primary evidence - in this case, double-check the original photograph of the license plate.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Z and 0 should have lines through them anywhere that easy readability matters.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 24 points 17 hours ago

The simplest fix is to correct the db.

[-] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

https://www.wired.com/story/null-license-plate-landed-one-hacker-ticket-hell/

It gets out sourced most likely. There is no money doing proper sync from a source of truth.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 43 minutes ago

I wouldn't bet on Wired being a shining beacon of truth, unless it's to get truth - telling whistle blowers thrown in the brig.

[-] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Surprisingly, no... You can update the original record, but, you can't guarantee that any subsequent records/documents/warrants/etc., will be found and also changed. If you simply giver her a new license plate, that connection more or less goes away.

e: If I were this person, I'd have gone and reported my plates as damaged and got new ones right away..

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 16 hours ago

Why can't SQL do it efficiently?

[-] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago

In the decades of experience I have with SQL, it is still unable to edit printed documents.

But also, it's not one database, it's thousands. Between missing/expired credentials, untested webhooks, changing data formats that the receiving end hasn't made the required updates for, and more... On top, some only get new records, not updates. Some are updated by hand even.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 34 minutes ago

Hey thanks again. It's amazing how much difference a few hours' sleep can make. All sorts of obvious things I (not a programmer) didn't think of.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 16 hours ago

Thank you for explaining this. I'm obviously not technically inclined, so I really appreciate it, and will try to reread it tomorrow so it hopefully clicks for me.

[-] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago
[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 8 hours ago
[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 94 points 19 hours ago

This is a normalizing of the flock cameras type of article:

  • They call them Flock Safety cameras. I don't care if that's the name. We should know them by Flock
  • This: "The system is widely used because it allows departments to extend their reach without putting more officers on the street."
  • This: "Flock cameras do not make errors in the traditional sense. They do exactly what they are programmed to do. The errors happen upstream, in the human process of entering information into databases, and the cameras simply amplify and repeat those errors at scale."
[-] LwL@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago

Bugs aren't actually errors. The program is doing exactly what it is programmed to do!

The worst thing is people probably believe that because they don't know any better.

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 30 points 19 hours ago

I would sue the shit outta Flock

[-] 1.ceramics926@kopitalk.net 17 points 18 hours ago

So...you're telling me that all the government surveillance, AI, and facial recognition in the world, and you still get the John Smiths, Jane Does, John Lees, and Anthony Johnsons of the world harassed over having the wrong name or the wrong plate?

[-] Chakravanti@monero.town 2 points 14 hours ago

Slash Zero or else...

[-] eleijeep@piefed.social 6 points 19 hours ago

Why do you have both zero and the letter O in your license plates?

[-] criticon@lemmy.ca 4 points 18 hours ago

My plates have 0, O and Q, I hate it

[-] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Flock is programmed to run it both as a zero and an O. It returns both as results to one car. The programmers were concerned it couldn't recognize the difference.

So a plate of 123 MNO

Would return both

123 MNO

123 MN0

Some states may not use zeros at all, but most of them do today.

And unfortunately this lady has a tag that is similar to one a suspect used at one time.

[-] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I mean that’s just common sense? Even a person calling into the police wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. Any sane jurisdiction has a single instance of confusing digits. So hence why flock works that way, it’s the objectively correct way.

How our jurisdiction handles custom license plates

[-] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

And yet in non-flock instances, this is checked and verified before inconveniencing the person. And there's not a network of cameras at every intersection to false-identify people.

So weird that scaling up a problematic response doesn't fix the root problem!

[-] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

And yet in non-flock instances, this is checked and verified before inconveniencing the person.

What…? What give you the idea that the police wouldn’t respond to someone calling a stolen vehicle in?

If someone calls in a stolen vehicle because of a misidentified plate, the cops are showing up. You can’t just make shit up to defend your point.

And the root of the problem is having license plates that can be confused with each other, Glock has nothing to do with this error, it’s purely a design issue of the plates. People make this mistake ALL the time, it’s why smart jurisdictions solved this decades ago. Even before tech was an issue mate…

[-] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world -4 points 19 hours ago

Wow complete miss. Just not at all what we’re doing here

[-] bright@piefed.social 12 points 18 hours ago

OP isn't blaming the person, they're saying it's dumb for the state to use license plate characters that're easily misread.

[-] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 12 points 19 hours ago

The error wouldn’t exist if the plates didn’t allow O and 0.

Atleast that’s what the article mentions.

[-] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Or have specific alpha/numeric positions, like a post code.

[-] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Vanity plates dude.

[-] eleijeep@piefed.social 3 points 18 hours ago

So you're telling me that one of those characters is not part of the character set used on license plates?

[-] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world -2 points 14 hours ago

I’m saying you’re helping to normalize fascism. This isn’t about alphanumerics, it’s about the spying on everyone that’s the issue

Of course

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