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submitted 3 weeks ago by pimat@feddit.org to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

I'm fairly new to self-hosting and privacy. I used to be all about Apple. I scanned all my important documents and stored them in iCloud. That worked pretty well, but because I tend to make my life harder than necessary, I switched from an iPhone to a Pixel with GrapheneOS. It's a hassle, but I'm happy with my decision overall. Unfortunately, my files are still in iCloud. As a Mac user, that's not too bad, but not being able to access my files on the go is annoying.

I'm afraid to store all my important files in an LXC on my Proxmox server, even with daily backups.

Should I switch from iCloud to Nextcloud, Proton, or something similar? Or should I create an offsite backup—one encrypted in the cloud and one in my house? How are others handling this? Would an extra backup at a family member's house be a good idea? Is paying for cloud storage common? I'd really appreciate any suggestions or ideas. Right now, I'm feeling overwhelmed by all the possibilities. Also, having 2 TB of iCloud storage made it too easy, since I didn't carefully choose the files to upload. But paying 10 bucks a month feels a little stupid now that I don't have the comfort factor any more.

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[-] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web
LXC Linux Containers
NAS Network-Attached Storage
NFS Network File System, a Unix-based file-sharing protocol known for performance and efficiency
NVMe Non-Volatile Memory Express interface for mass storage
SSD Solid State Drive mass storage
ZFS Solaris/Linux filesystem focusing on data integrity
nginx Popular HTTP server

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[-] runiq@feddit.org 0 points 3 weeks ago

I pay for a Hetzner Storage Box which serves as a Restic backup point for my password database and my Paperless documents.

[-] dieTasse@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

This is good recommendation. 👍

[-] steel_for_humans@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

I have a similar setup. My PC has disks formatted in Btrfs, so I get copy on write snapshots of my system disk, then have a local Restic backup on a secondary disk and then have an off-site Restic backup in the cloud on the Storage Box.

Thanks for pointing me to Paperless, never heard of it, it seems like it could be useful. I wonder how it deals with languages other than English, if at all.

[-] pimat@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

I will check out paperless

[-] pimat@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'll take a look at it, thank you

[-] francisco_1844@discuss.online 0 points 3 weeks ago

Recommend you follow the 321 backup strategy. Adopted to modern times I would say it is broadly:

  • Have your data in more than 1 place
  • Use more than one provider
  • One of your types of backups should be physical media like an external hard drive.

From what you described if apple was to wipe your data[1] you would be completely out of luck.. for example if something deletes data in your Mac and then that deletion gets synced... For the most part syncing data is not a backup.

Lastly, recommend you try to put all your critical data in one folder, or identify folders with critical data and prioritize backup of those first while you figure out the rest.

[1] Not only can a deletion "sync" from your mac, but there can be any number of issues.. like a bad update to a file. There is also the possibility, no matter how small, that apple could wipe your data. Over time you always see news of "company X deleted entire set of data for user/company Y".

[-] pimat@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks, yeah that is a good point. Also: you just unlocked a new fear..

[-] Cyber@feddit.uk 0 points 2 weeks ago

To help with the overwhelm, If you scanned these important documents then I'm presuming you still have the (paper?) originals?

Treat them as your source of truth and work with them first - some might have superceeded your backups anyway.

Then, as others have said, follow the 3-2-1 principle, but keep one of the backups as plain and simple files (.pdf I presume)

If you lock the files in an app, you're making it even more difficult to restore them later.

Personally, I put my files (ie. .pdf, .jpg, etc) in encrypted online file storage (Hetzner) and I made sure I keep instructions elsewhere on how to get them back again (in case I'm... not able to)

Keep it simple

[-] pimat@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Usually I shred the original papers. Keeping it simple makes sense to me.

[-] a_fancy_kiwi@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I have a NAS with a couple of SSDs configured in a ZFS mirror that backs up to a Raid Z2 storage pool on the same NAS. Again, on that NAS, I run Paperless-ngx in a docker container. Finally, I use the iOS app Swift Paperless to upload documents to Paperless-ngx. All done over Tailscale.

My load bearing NAS has a lot of redundancy but no offsite backups so I still keep some important documents in the cloud. I'm saving up for another NAS that I can keep at a family members house but prices are insane right now :/

If you can follow the 3-2-1 storage rule without using the cloud, that's awesome. However, the upfront cost can be expensive depending on how much you are storing. Just do the best you can using whatever you have available to you, even if that means using iCloud as part of your setup.

[-] BennyInc@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

The cloud could be your offsite backup. Using restic and running a regular paperless export is the way I do it. Nightly export, followed by a backup to Hetzner.

[-] a_fancy_kiwi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

How does Hetzner work? I just looked at their storage box prices, and it seems too good to be true? €40/mo for 20TB. And they break it down to €0.0651/hr. Does that mean I could run the backups only when needed and pay less than €40/mo?

[-] BennyInc@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

It is a monthly price you pay for the storage, traffic included. Breaking it down to hours would make sense if you keep the storage for a short time only. A backup you want to keep indefinitely of course.

[-] a_fancy_kiwi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oh got it. Thanks!

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