Man, so much whataboutism.
How about we stop deliberately killing off cultures?
Am I in r/sino?
Eradicating one culture deemed medieval and feudalistic and replacing it with a ethnosupremacist form of feudalist capitalism disguised in a pseudo-Maoist wrapper... Standard fare in the Pooh World where what the Hans are doing is "liberation". Not only that, the Tibetan plateau is like a smorgasbord for Mainlander corporations looking for rare-earth resources, so there comes the program of forced assimilation which is no more different from banishing all Palestinians from their lands.
(BTW, Israel sold to China some several key technologies, including early-warning radar.)
I "wonder" whom they got cultural-genocide-methods from..
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Hopi+prisoners+in+alcatraz&t=fpas&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images
( Hopi men in Alcatraz prison, because they wouldn't sign their agreement with their children being taken from them, at gunpoint, to be enforced into the residential-"school" institutions ).
Back in the Nuremberg trials, we had the absolute-gall to maintain that MoralLaw, aka NaturalLaw, aka RuleOfJustLaw, "outranks" RuleOfLegalism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law
Where, in our genociding of Indigenous Peoples & their culture, both before & after, did we demonstrate that principle??
Oh, we "have the right to be 2-faced" .. ??
Anybody who's tried reading Wehle's book "How to Think like a Lawyer, and Why", knows that legalism is the whole of the law, & RuleOfJustLaw/MoralLaw/NaturalLaw .. hasn't got any power to outrank precident.
https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/how-to-think-like-a-lawyer-and-why
( the SCOTUS gutting of the US's Voting Rights Act stands on legalism, e.g. )
Yes, it is true that I already-know that CCP gaslights about holding to international-law.
My point is that our world holds to "rule of law", NOT to Rule of Law, & that our pretending otherwise is itself gaslighting.
Yes, Jim Crow 2.0 is being enforced in the US, now.
Yes, ICE is embodying the SAME "principles" in the US that the IDF is embodying in Gaza
( this short, and difficult-to-watch, video explains that .. while showing us the murders of ICE, & their other IDF-clone behaviors, .. while showing us the IDF's original-renditions. Please have the guts to see it with your own eyes: it changes one to see & understand, accurately.. https://youtu.be/qhZBVLQK9MU )
& yes, this supremacism/genociding principle is enacting in Europe ( ask the Ukranians' stolen children about it ), in Asia ( see the article linked in the OP ), in the Middle-East ( Netanyahu's "Israel" .. I discovered yesterday that the real LivingSpirit-loyal Jews are calling Netanyahu "Amalek", which is the embodyer-of-anti-Judaism/"Jewish"-evil ) & in the Americas.
This is part of a global paradigm, not something local to 1 of the 4 world-pushing "poles" of Earth!
It's the principle/paradigm that needs opposing, not letting the framing be made "only-local", because so long as we remain blindfolded against the globalness-of-the-paradigm, then we remain as ineffective as they want us to be!
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A) cultural genocide has been a thing, in lots of places, for millenia. As one of the oldest civilisations, China has plenty of examples in its history, no need to rely on Americans for inspiration.
B) countries shouldn't get a turn or an hall pass at crimes against humanity because other countries did or are doing the same.
^Modern whataboutism propaganda will exhaust you by the end so you forget entirely that this thread is about China's human rights abuses.
Literally every time on Lemmy someone says something bad about country X, there spawns a dude who starts writing "but US"
At this point I can't tell if this is deliberate propaganda, the same tactic used by the soviets. In any case, I've noticed also that people are now growing tired of whataboutism, and your comment pisses me off too. One country being bad is not an excuse for others to do bad.
Uh oh, an anti-China article on Lemmy. This comment section should be interesting
Literally US Zionist propaganda
From Wikipedia
Human Rights Watch (HRW) is a nonprofit watchdog group headquartered in New York City
In 2026, HRW's Israel and Palestine director resigned after HRW blocked a report that argued that Israel's denial of the Palestinian right of return is a "crime against humanity".
In 2014, two Nobel Peace Laureates, Adolfo Pérez Esquivel and Mairead Maguire, wrote a letter signed by 100 other human rights activists and scholars criticizing HRW for its revolving-door hiring practices with the U.S. government, its failure to denounce the U.S. practice of extrajudicial rendition, its endorsement of the U.S. 2011 military intervention in Libya, and its silence during the 2004 Haitian coup d'état.
Why are you posting Zionist propaganda "NGO"s?
I'm no fan of Zionists but what you are doing is attacking and attempting to discredit the source to distract from the message that they are trying to push.
The story here is the attempted cultural genocide of the Tibetan people by the Chinese government. I come from a nation that has almost lost its language as a result of similar colonial cultural genocide. This issue may not be real or important to you but it is an attempt to destroy a nation's cohesion and identity.
The real question for me is why are you trying to discredit an article on this, what is your agenda here Riverside?
attempting to discredit the source to distract from the message that they are trying to push
Yes, because the message they're trying to push is "China bad" as a US-gvt and Zionist controlled "NGO", in the current cold war that the US is instigating against China as the former loses worldwide economic dominance.
The story here is the attempted cultural genocide of the Tibetan people by the Chinese government
Yes, and I'd take it seriously if it was real and not fabricated propaganda designed to target the most progressive among us.
I come from a nation that has almost lost its language as a result of similar colonial cultural genocide
I'm very sorry about that. Is China the aggressor in your instance, or are you projecting Western colonialist history onto China because the US propaganda outlets are telling us to do so?
This issue may not be real or important to you
It's extremely important to me. And if it were important to you, you'd be doing activism not for the fabricated false news about Tibetan language, but actual cultural genocides ongoing right now in the west that I haven't seen you do activism about, such as Breton or Occitan in France, the latter of which has gone from 1Mn speakers to 100k over the past century and, to this day, enjoys no official recognition or status. Lhasa Tibetan is, TODAY, the official language of the Tibet Autonomous Region of China. In the 1950s, there were about a million speakers of Tibetan in China, today there are about 6 million. From Wikipedia:
"In the Texas Journal of International Law, Barry Sautman stated that "none of the many recent studies of endangered languages deems Tibetan to be imperiled, and language maintenance among Tibetans contrasts with language loss even in the remote areas of Western states renowned for liberal policies"
I understand your concern with the preservation of languages and cultures, I completely share that mindset. However, I urge you to look at the material facts beyond US/Zionist-fabricated fearmongering: Chinese currency portrays the currency values written in Tibetan among other languages of China, Tibetan speakers only grow over time according to modern evidence, and the countries warning against such acts are literally carrying out unspoken acts of linguistic genocide.
Gasp, New York City! I only get my news straight from Beijing! Everybody else is a zionist! /s
Great job ignoring the part about the organization blocking reports about the Isntreali genocide in Palestine
Everyone who uses Isntrael unironically can just be disregarded
It gets tiresome immediately.
They aren't helping their own cause.
China's conduct towards ethnic minorities is pretty bad at times, but this seems pretty lukewarm.
I'm not defending China's treatment of Tibetans in general, but a uniform language of instruction is a nothingburger. Not a nothingburger I'm happy about to be clear, but still a nothingburger. Otherwise at least half the world would be engaging in cultural genocide
Sure, but they are also banning after hours school teaching Tibetan
Yeah, and that's not a nothingburger. Like I said I'm objecting to the focus on school education in Mandarin in thr article, not defending China's broader treatment of Tibetans.
Otherwise at least half the world would be engaging in cultural genocide
Yes. This is why both nobody cares and it's a huge deal. We've done this to each other for thousands of years. The definition of genocide is the destruction of a culture, it doesn't have to be killing. It can be this.
Resistance since the uprising of 1959 has persisted under the current Dalai Lama, a “potent force despite decades of propaganda, political crackdowns and education drives aimed at undermining his authority”, living in exile in India.
What authority are they talking about? Are they arguing that education should not be offered and that instead theocratic leadership is what is most important when considering human rights? I think rather the real propaganda comes from the west in favour of a feudal theocracy.
They're unironically calling for child sex slaves to be reinstated.
I wouldn’t believe shit coming from human rights watch, people are being made stateless where I’m from and I haven’t heard a peep out of them. Current estimates look around 300k or so.
Why wouldn't you believe it? That only proves they have bias, not that they're lying. At worst it's no better than US, Russian, or Chinese state media. Which many happily accept. If there's a problem with the message counter the message, not the messenger.
HRW only cares for human rights violations in certain countries. Fuck this imperialistic apparatus.
In addition to what deft is saying in another comment here is the HRW openly stating Israel is committing "crimes against humanity" and "apartheid."
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2025/country-chapters/israel-and-palestine
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