The wording also struck a nerve because many AI models were trained on enormous amounts of publicly available internet data such as books, articles, forums and creative work created by millions of people who were never directly compensated.
That's much too kind. We were never indirectly compensated, either.
and creative work created by millions of people who were never directly compensated.
That's much too kind. We were never indirectly compensated, either.
We were never even asked for permission to use our works and words.
Stealing your original work so you can pay for a regurgitated version of it.
They don't have intelligence, they have spicy AutoCorrect
Exactly, I see people freaking out about this tech replacing them. It's not gonna happen, not with OpenAI's tech anyway. They don't have intelligence to sell. They have LLM's that are good at tricking people who don't know better into thinking it's inteligant. LLM's can't think and they can't reason.
I think the worry of large layoffs and instability while idiots try to use AI instead of people is founded even if it’ll end in disaster.
Sorry, but you're wrong. I'm gonna get the downvotes because everyone loves to hate on AI, but it's true. There are many many entry level software jobs that can get replaced right now. I do AI research for climate stuff and all of my colleagues feel the same way. Yall can live in a different reality if it makes you feel better, but it's not the truth. That doesn't mean it's not a form of a bubble or at the peak of the hype cycle, though. Both things are true.
From a wealthy elite perspective, it's the desire of the ultimate triumph of Capital over Labor, and that's terrifying as being on the Labor side.
You are right that it can do some entry level jobs, but the system as it is requires those jobs to exist. There is no such thing as a senior developer that was not previously a junior developer.
I believe that is where the collapse will happen. There will be a sucking black hole of demand for senior talent and almost no talent pool. Add on to that the fact that the sources for LLMs' ability to code (stack overflow, countless private forums, Reddit, etc) have been destroyed by those LLMs. How will they learn anything new?
I don't fundamentally want the technology to fail, but it seems to ravenously consume everything, even the knowledge and manpower bases that were used to build and train it.
Yeah, I'm a translator and the jobscape has completely changed. Basic shit can be done on a "eh, it's good enough" level so I stopped getting such job offers. The only thing I get now are technical work or something more "human" required like novels, game localization, other such works of art. I think it would be really hard right now for anyone new to find clients because most people are OK with just "OK."
I made a Lemmy community for translators who like to provide help and also add a bit of human touch to the process.
Interpreting is still in demand, I feel, because people still like hearing natural-sounding speech (AI is getting there but it's still kinda creepy) and it still mixes up a lot of information. Also, people don't speak with perfect grammar. They make mistakes, use filler words/sounds, trace back, mix languages... All of which confuse AI—for now. Also language pairs like English and Japanese can be a bit tricky because Japanese sentences tend to run on forever and also kinda go backwards compared to English (JA: reason then conclusion; EN: conclusion then reason, for example) which again throws off AI.
my favorite part of this is that after decades of sci-fi dystopias based on fear of evil AI overlords that destroy the Earth, in reality we're creating a dystopia where we destroy the Earth to build a bunch of shitty plagiarism bots and treat them like they're AI overlords.
I can't stop thinking that all dystopias are actually giving ideas to the rich.
I'm not worried about this tech replacing people, I'm worried about the fact that people are actively losing neural elasticity from using LLMs to think for them.
Dont be worried, be certain. People are RAPIDLY becoming dumber. They already were because of the dumbing down of everything in general but this is accelerating it.
they're pretty up front about it. They want to gatekeep knowledge so they can monetize it and control the labor.
Putting aside that what they sell is not even inteligence: if they are providing a utility, then let’s regulate them like a utility, e.g. electricity distribution
So they stole the data to create these abominations and now they want to sell it back to everyone. Does no one see the fucking hypocrisy?
To psycho/sociopaths/maga, hypocrisy doesn't matter.
No rules or laws matter. Ethics or morals don't matter. Pain and suffering don't matter.
They will do whatever makes their empty souls feel thr need to achieve to satisfy their inhuman lust for power, control, status, and notoriety.
Snake oil salesman is saying that snake oil is a cure for everything.
Why does he keep calling it "intelligence"? It's not intelligent. Even calling it AI is a stretch. It's an LLM.
Also, intelligence already means something else. When phrased like it is in this context, it sounds like he's talking about selling espionage.
But then again, telemetry and adware are essentially espionage. So maybe that is what he means...
Flimflam Sam says…
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It's not intelligence
Its the vast, free resource of the internet. Mined, paywalled, repackaged and sold back to you at a premium by rent seeking talentless hacks
The sad part is
LLMs have niche use cases. They are great at summarizing text (“hallucinations” are a problem with an engineering fix). Other models are great at stuff like image recognition, pattern matching, optimization of data structures or the like. There are real, useful applications for this technology that could save actual humans actual time and effort.
But there’s no money in that; so instead they market their mechanical Turk, built with stolen source material, as a replacement for things people do. every middle manger thinks they’re going to save the company and get promoted to CEO for optimizing the workforce out of the job, and the demand allows big tech to finally steal personal computing from society as a whole by buying up literally all the components for decades. Building and using a personal computer is going to become lost knowledge by the time the supply settles from this heist; there won’t BE a market for PCs by then.
Seriously you cannot go to a conference about enterprise software in 2026 without every talk being something AI related. It’s honestly bonkers anyone would put this much trust in another company to essentially run their business. It’s like the WORLD is hallucinating.
You’ve seen what connectivity has already done to some people…imagine what it’ll be like when there is ENTIRELY no control…
No open source, no piracy, no porn, no freedom to discuss anything even slightly taboo on message boards, no safe spaces for LGBTQIA+, or bloc; no criticizing the government, and you pay &59.99 per month or you lose all your pictures of your kid, your loan paperwork, and your tax documents, since local storage just isn’t sold anymore. Hard drives? You mean like a record player? Only hipsters have those! No one who’s serious stores things locally! We’re too busy to deal with the hassle of plugging in devices or making backups, that’s for luddites.
God help you if they decide to exclude you from the banking system.
LLMs absolutely have their uses. Summarise X. I've thrown it a list of client sites and told it to group them in lots of five based by geographical proximity when planning the logistics for a rollout. I've also literally watched my boss get driven almost to a stroke trying to "troubleshoot" something using AI and failing miserably because LLMs don't think. They're literally incapable of saying "Hey, what if you just click on that menu and do that instead" (yeah I fixed it in five minutes and told him LLMs aren't for that dude, don't do that.)
but, for my original point: Google is already fucking up the knowledge base. You can try and search something and you will literally have the answer obscured, even using an alternate search if they rely on aggregates of other engines. Unless you use google's AI summaries. Because they want to present as the authority, the knowledge source and that is actively fucking dangerous, not to mention the sheer fucking audacity of obscuring knowledge sources they don't even fucking own just so they can pretend they have that information.
Companies can already buy intelligence as a utility. It's called contractor work. Buying tokens from Sam Altman is not going to result in the outcomes the companies want. Hire me instead, at least I kind of know what I'm doing.
So basically a world in which the only ideas that exist are approved by AI companies? I know evocations of 1984 have been a cliche for ages but
I'll sell Sam Altman an ounce of dignity, only a small 1 billion dollar fee.
Luckily, people who don't buy intelligence from him tend to have enough already.
Stop buying up all the chips you worthless piece of shit.
Every motherfucker who went “what am I ever gonna USE this for?!” in computer classes in school are the same ones who like this magic man’s funny words and “save so much time writing emails” and say shit like “Yeah but what are we gonna do? That’s progress!”
I have lost respect for so many people.
I think that's the problem, most people think this is movie A.I. and it can do anything. In reality it's just a tool like the computer is a tool. I use A.I. all the time to help me do my work, I don't use it to do my work.
Lmao, Sam Altman wouldn't know what intelligence looked like even if it came up and punched him in the face.
There are plenty of people with solar panels and wells. The beauty of the internet and mobile compute is having the wealth of human knowledge at your fingertips. It's DIY, but easy. Just Google it (RIP Google). If the goal is centralization and control, chat with IBM. They have their place, but it was a slow crawl out of the muck they put themselves in. Someone will always come along and realize that ease and accessibility are key to the end user, and they'll kick your whole business out from under you, every time.
Hype first, tangible income stream last, and this isn't it.
How did that grifter get the job in the first place.
Please Sam, do the world a favor and step in front of a bus.
Call me paranoid but comments like this really have me worried about forced transhumanism
The real threats are much less sci-fi and more good old fashioned resource theft and exploitative slavery.
Exploitative slavery via technological means is a possibility with supportive evidence. It isn't the 1800s anymore - this is shadowrun.
I can't wait to lance the AI bubble like a doggone perineal abscess.
It's wild how almost everything in the world is comic book evil from like a really poorly written comic.
Ollama
Oh its a utility?
... so it should be publically owned and operated?
He didn't even say 'like' or 'akin to' a utility.
He said 'is a utility'.
... So then democracratize it.
And yeah, if WiFi is like that too, then yeah, lets have the public manage that as well.
... I wonder if ChatGPT can draw Altman looking at a broken clock being right twice a day.
WiFi is not a utility. Perhaps cellular service and fiber to the home should be, though.
WiFi is just the radio that gets you from your device to your router. It’s not the internet. Yes it’s an important distinction. Words have meanings. No, YOU’RE not being pedantic enough! 😤
Well ofcourse first step to this is to cultivate an environment where most people lose their skills or don't train them at all. So I bet each time someone uses AI for exams they have a little orgasm.
Don't get me wrong, I am open to the idea of AI tools as productivity enhancers, especially local models with open weights. But the OP puts what these tech bros want more aptly then I ever could, they want to monopolize on intelligence and skills.
Any instance of LLMs being adduced as intelligence must be mercilessly ridiculed and mocked. No one impressed by slop should ever be permitted contribution to decisions affecting anyone not similarly cognitively impaired.
LLMs are only AI as Accelerators and Amplifiers of Ignorance and Incompetence, with vanishingly scarce examples of Insight.
Another desperate attempt to monetize. AI bubble-burst, here we come!
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