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submitted 1 year ago by jackpot@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

new to this linux stuff sorry

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[-] Joker@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Linux is Linux. The differences largely come down to packaging and release cadence. You never really have upgrade difficulties with Arch due to the rolling release model as long as you are updating pretty regularly. On other distros, it’s not uncommon to deal with release upgrades that can be a little more involved. The other advantage to Arch is the repository and AUR. You can install just about anything with one command/click.

Personally, I think Arch is the easiest distro to use once it’s installed. I was a Debian user before Arch for mostly the same reason - it’s so easy to install software because the repository is huge. Being on Mint, you have access to a lot. Just imagine having access to even more but needing a little more knowledge to get started and that’s Arch.

[-] oct2pus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think my issue with Mint is the small team maintaining the cinnamon fork that clearly can't keep up with the desktop.

Otherwise mint is functionally Ubuntu. I preferred Debian for my stable stuff. I like arch currently because PKGBUILD was acomparatively easy package format to learn and modify. Rolling is nice but I've used Debian extensively as well.

[-] Mambert@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I don't like other distros that include lots of programs out of the box. I might need an office program, a music player, etc. But I want to choose it all myself.

I like KDE, but I also like some gnome applications, and it's difficult to find a distro that only installs one or the other.

I find it easier to start from scratch: Give me a basic desktop environment, a terminal, and I know how to take it from there.

The rolling packages are a nice touch. As a linux gamer, any bit of free performance I can get from simply installing an update is appreciated.

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 1 year ago
[-] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Arch and Gentoo have IMO the best documentation ever and you learn a lot when you try using either of those distributions as you have to do everything from scratch starting from a minimal system. Since you're saying you're new to Linux though, I'd say you should start with something more user-friendly like Mint or Ubuntu (or even Manjaro if you want a rolling release distro) and stay away from Arch and Gentoo in the beginning.

[-] JoelJ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Just to chime in, I first tried arch because some youtuber I followed recommended it, but after 5 years I would say I've stayed with it for the AUR and the community. The AUR has almost every app I've ever needed, and whenever I have a problem there's always a solution on one forum or another, to the point where I can usually just copy and paste it into the terminal and it's solved!

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

AUR is kind of the worst feature Arch offers and I am not actively using Arch right now anyway. Because its used for the wrong purpose: "install any app you need/want". Thats dangerous and creates problems by itself. I'd rather rely on flatpak/appimages, but open for counter arguments.

[-] JoelJ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What problems does the AUR create? I just install using yay, and it mostly works fine

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Users not being aware of what kind of package they install on their system and how AUR packages can conflict with normal repo packages. Additionally its a big security risk if you cannot/don't read the code.

AUR is basically like installing software from some kind of online source which is not supervised by anyone.

So much this! As a user of both Arch and Gentoo I say, don't use Arch as Gentoo! It's not Gentoo! AUR is not a standard repository and there's a reason they make you jump through hoops just to use the thing.

Also, it's a total pain when normal package management is quick and easy. The building alone is weird in Arch and somehow like 60% of the crap I try to build from AUR fails hard and I just can't be bothered to spend more than like twenty minutes tweaking on it. Gr. 😅

(Aaalllsooo, apparently lots of people break their Arch installs using the AUR like it's a normal repo and then wonder why Arch is so crap and leave.)

[-] JoelJ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What do you mean by 'normal' package management?

[-] 20watts@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Customization, lots of apps (via aur), no bloat

[-] outhold@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Furycd001@fosstodon.org 1 points 1 year ago

@jackpot For me personally, I've found that XFCE on Arch runs faster & uses less resources compared to XFCE running on mint, Debian, or Ubuntu. Debian will always be my No.1 fav Linux distro, but for now I'm on Arch, even if I'm not really using the aur for anything other than nvidia drivers. Arch probably won't be permanent, but for now I'm loving it, & switching back to Debian will eventually happen. Just not yet....

[-] Oha@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago
[-] art@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Arch teaches you about the inner workings of Linux. Mostly because it breaks all the time and you have to fix it.

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Arch doesn't "break" you are doing shit you have no clue about which in turn creates problems, which you then have to fix. Still if you plainly install and update it, I doubt you will notice much difference from an Arch install compared to any other distro.

[-] TempusNemini@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I have 5 computers with Arch (iMac, 2 macBooks, new Asus and ooooold storage box). How long it takes for something to break up?

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[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I use Crystal Linux, which is Arch based.

I've tried Mint along with 10 other distros. What I liked about Arch is:

  • Latest Kernel, always. This means new drivers, better support for your current devices and support for more devices. Security & performance patches.
  • AUR. Massive repo of user submitted apps & libs most not found elsewhere.
  • Arch WiKi. Everything you will need or want to do somebody else already did and documented it so everyone else can have a guide to do it. Best documentation site ever.
  • Arch Repo. Always the latest Software. Officially maintained apps and libs land first on Arch, Debian & Ubuntu derivatives take ages to catch up in comparison.
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