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Ukraine war: Zelensky says Israel-Gaza conflict taking focus away from fighting (www.bbc.co.uk)

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The Israel-Gaza war is "taking away the focus" from the conflict in Ukraine, the country's President Volodymyr Zelensky has admitted.

He said this was "one of the goals" of Russia, which launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

And he denied that fighting in Ukraine had reached a stalemate, despite a recent assessment to this effect by the country's top military general.

Ukraine's counter-offensive in the south has so far made little headway.

This has prompted fears of war fatigue among Kyiv's Western allies, with suggestions of growing reluctance in some capitals to continue giving Ukraine advanced weapons and funds.

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 182 points 1 year ago

Never thought I'd agree with Zelensky about something related to Israel. Ukraine deserves aid much more than Israel.

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[-] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 121 points 1 year ago

I hate to say it, but within minutes of hearing about the attack by Hamas against Israel, the unexpectedness of it, and the scale of it, I asked myself, “Who’s funding this,” and, “Who gains by this?” And my brain replied, “Putin.”

Sure enough within days his puppets in our government (the USofA GOP) start talking about reducing/stopping aid to Ukraine.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Republicans were complaining about aid to Ukraine long before this. Russia is not as sophisticated a puppet master as you think.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 25 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure Iran arranged the attack, but Russia is definitely benefiting. That's not an accident

[-] hemmes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Aren't Iran and Russia buddies?

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[-] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

It's more complex than that, Israel and Russia have much more common geopolitical interest than you might expect if you follow analists: in Sirya for example. This while still having opposite positions about Iran. It's just a mess.

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[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

The most likely intention for the brutality of the terror attack from October was stopping the diplomatic processes between Israel and other Arab countries to establish somewhat normal relations. Putin and Iran are definitely indirect beneficiaries, but there's no need to create narratives where Hamas is the puppet of Iran or Russia because they did something that was aligned with their own interests.

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I can't presume what you know or have heard, but Hamas is playing ball with Putin.

[-] ech@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Sure enough within days his puppets in our government (the USofA GOP) start talking about reducing/stopping aid to Ukraine.

I mean, not to say you're wrong exactly, but that's not a new thing. Those same people have been demanding the same for a year and a half. Using Israel as their current excuse doesn't mean much, just that they're opportunistic shits, which isn't really news.

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[-] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

If you think this is bad, just wait until China goes for Taiwan. "Like butter that has been scraped over too much bread."

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[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

If you take him at his word, then that implies that Putin and Iran teamed up together to start conflict in Gaza, purposely to reduce support for the Ukraines in their war.

Be really sad if it's true, as that means people are dying in a war in one part of the world to support a war in another part of the world, a war they have no part in.

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[-] AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

It's creating a new front in regards to the proxy wars. Russia still has the numerical advantage over Ukraine in regards of people it throws into the grinder, but now Iran can get more involved by trying to harass through the Israel-Hamas conflict which decreases the provisions available for Ukraine.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Zelenskyy wants Ukraine to be another Israel: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/zelenskyy-wants-ukraine-to-be-a-big-israel-heres-a-road-map/

Which is... interesting... but he'll never replace America's #1 beloved darling sweetheart.

[-] Zippit@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

I think Israel right now wants to be Ukraine. Ukraine has won the people's hearts by fighting so hard despite overwhelming odds. They're paying with their lives to stop Russia not only from destroying them, but also from invading other parts of Europe.

They should be honoured.

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