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From Naked Capitalism:

...one has to wonder what the latest Blinken round of visits to the Middle East was supposed to accomplish, since all it did was expose our impotence. Even the Financial Times could not hide that the meetings with Netanyahu and then Arab leaders were a train wreck. Netanyahu rejected even any itty bitty ceasefire, branded a humanitarian pause, to get relief in, demanding that Hamas release all hostages first. The fact that Israel has welched or underperformed on its past begrudging promises to let trucks from Egypt in, would make that a non-starter even before getting to Hamas being sure to stick to its position of wanting to trade hostages for Palestinian prisoners. And of course the Arab states are not about to budge. Blinken got a more pointed version of what he was told before.

Antony Blinken faced intense pressure from regional allies to facilitate an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, laying bare the stark gap between US support for Israel and the outrage in Arab capitals over the siege and bombardment of the strip….

Sameh Shoukry, the Egyptian foreign minister, demanded an unconditional ceasefire, a commitment that Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu bluntly rejected after meeting Blinken on Friday.

Blinken had been expected to “brainstorm” with Arab diplomats the future of Gaza, home to 2.3mn Palestinians, after the war ends. Safadi bluntly rejected those talks as premature. “How can we even entertain what will happen in Gaza when we do not know how Gaza will be left?” he asked Blinken. “Are we going to be talking about a wasteland? Are we talking about a whole population reduced to refugees?”

This comes off as the sort of thing someone who had just read classic texts on negotiating trying to put in practice: “Gee, let’s get a dialogue going! Let’s get to ‘Yes’ on some less fraught issues to pave the way for further agreement!” In addition, “brainstorming” is cringemakingly American. You don’t do that with people who are mad at you. You don’t do that in a crisis. Between independent entities, you do not do that at the top level. You have low level people or emissaries float ideas. So why this exercise? The worst is that Biden and Blinken come off as so disconnected from reality that they though they might get someone to accommodate US needs.


Friendly reminder: when commenting about a news event, especially something that just happened, please provide a source of some kind. While ideally this would be on nitter or archived, any source is preferable to none at all given.

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Lebanon! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.



Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

You're going to have to (hex)bear with me on the update this week. Have you been feeling generally pretty terrible this last month or so? So have I, and doomscrolling and archiving it all is my quasi-job at this point. Not good, folks, more and more people are saying it. I'll get over it eventually.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] Eldungeon2@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago

Raisi in SA

https://www.rt.com/news/584220-israel-gaza-hamas-attack/

Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi has called on Islamic governments to designate Israel as a “terrorist organization” due to its ongoing military operations in Gaza.

“Islamic governments should designate the army of the occupying and aggressor regime as a terrorist organization,” Raisi said at the Joint Arab Islamic Extraordinary Summit in Riyadh as Middle Eastern leaders convened to discuss the Israel-Hamas conflict.

Raisi also called on Islamic countries to cut “any sort of political or economic relations” with Israel, as well as the introduction of a trade boycott “especially in the energy field.”

Raisi’s arrival in Riyadh on Saturday was the first time an Iranian head of state had visited Saudi Arabia since diplomatic ties between the two countries were normalized in a Beijing-brokered deal in March.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago

Israel has bombed the Indonesian Hospital

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[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 2 years ago

israeli media: The Dovev [Hezbollah] operation today developed into a series of military incidents… the security establishment fears that the situation on the northern border is not under control

https://twitter.com/eyesonsouth1/status/1723730527364980819
https://nitter.net/eyesonsouth1/status/1723730527364980819

Zionists are threatening to bomb all Lebanon over operations conducted by Hezbollah against their military bases at the border

As israelis claim to have the most powerful army in the region, why not just face the armed Resistance directly, given a battle field is already open?

https://twitter.com/eyesonsouth1/status/1723734640203030983
https://nitter.net/eyesonsouth1/status/1723734640203030983

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[-] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago

About 100 pro-Palestine protesters have been disrupting traffic at an Ascot Vale intersection as thousands of punters continue to make their way to Flemington Racecourse ahead of the running of the Cup, according to police.

Police say the protesters arrived about 11am at the Epsom Road, Ascot Vale Road and Racecourse Road roundabout and caused traffic disruptions.

Two protesters, including a woman who climbed onto the roof of a white van and refused to get down, were pepper-sprayed and arrested, according to police.

Police say the incident remains ongoing, with about 80 protesters at the scene, and they have arranged for the van to be towed away.

nooo you can't stop the horsey race nooo

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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago

The Mosaic Community, the orthodox Jewish religious organization who most Danish Jews belongs to and who is treated as representing all Jews in Denmark has reported a significant increase in antisemitic incidents since the Al-Aqsa Flood. Their report describes several of the incidents and gives an insight in what is really behind the numbers we read in the media.

Physical violence is rare and there are no examples of systemic antisemitism or antisemitism done by employers, bureaucrats, cops or in similar relations with unequal distribution of power. Most of the incidents involves threats and slurs. All of the incidents described (except, perhaps, an incident where a Jew experienced having stuff thrown at a window displaying a menorah and a zionist flag) describes problematic racist behaviour that targets Jews. To the credit of the Mosaic Community, none of the incidents described are disingenuous labeling of anti-zionism antisemitism.

The motivation for the incidents can be placed in several categories. There are examples of what could be termed cultural antisemitism, like people making casual remarks about Jews being misers. Then there is the really nasty stuff where Jews are being threatened, harassed and assaulted by neonazis with a clear exterminationist goal. But what seems to be the most common motivation is misguided anti-zionism where people are justifiably appeled and enraged by zionist atrocities in Palestine and then misattributes them to Jews in general. Often a lot of these antisemitic incidents are provoked by the victim making pro-zionist statements and the perpetrator responding by making threats and insults directed against Jews in general.

If the purpose of the zionist occupation of Palestine is to keep Jews safe from antisemitism and if the driving factor of most antisemitism in the world is misguided anger over said occupation then one could be provocative and ask if the Zionists are not doing a piss-poor job by working hard to make all Jews look like genocidal maniacs.

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[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"Algerian Parliament member "Zakarya Belkhir زكيرا بلخير" calls upon Algerians to donate money to the resistance"

https://streamable.com/u0ixi4

I'm sharing this because we now know Yassin 105 costs 500$

The money he's holdingThe six men are:

  • Mustafa Ben Bouleid
  • Mohammed Boudiaf
  • Al Arbi Ben Mhidi
  • Karim Belkacem
  • Rabeh Bibat
  • Didouche Murad

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I can see how this thing makes the IOF not want to do any infantry operations

https://streamable.com/6ovror

🟢 Martyr Izz El-Din Al-Qassam Brigades:

Watch: An introductory video about the "Yassin" anti-fortification missile "TBG," which Al-Qassam fighters used to target the special forces fortified inside buildings on several axes of the Gaza Strip.

Note:

The description of the device:

  • Designed and manufactured by Al-Qassam Brigades.
  • Has a high destructive capacity.
  • It is fired by an RPG launcher.
  • Used against fortified buildings and structures.
  • Its dual function warhead penetrates the walls and then explodes inside the building.

Technical specifications:

  • Shell caliber: 64/105mm
  • Total weight: 4.5kg.
  • Effective range: 100m
  • Impact range: 150m

Watch the introductory videos for the Al-Yassin tandem shell (https://t.me/PalestineResist/18023) and the guerilla action device (https://t.me/PalestineResist/18021).

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[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago

The final chapter of that CIAnarchist saga

ladies and gentleman

we got 'im

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[-] professionalduster@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

there will be big protests in the UK tomorrow. things will almost certainly happen and the British media will almost certainly make shit up about how they were all anti-Semitism or something

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67383065

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

megathreadcels who only post in the megathread: soy-cutie

postcels who post all over the site: https://hexbear.net/post/1042007 soviet-chad

[-] batsforpeace@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

New line spotted among fringe right wing circles in Poland: 'Israel is not worthy of our support because they're actually a woke society that has been allowing adoption by same sex couples since 2008'.

That's similar posturing logic to when Trump said he actually doesn't like Netanyahu because he didn't get enough direct support from him during the Qasem Soleimani assassination. I wonder if the US patsocs will also make use of these 'Israel is too soft for us' brainworms as well. Also, even Scott Ritter keeps saying it's all Netanyahu's fault, as if the next politician in line will be some dove.

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[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 2 years ago
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[-] Melina@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

Cornell said Slava Ukraine, Slava Israeli and Slava Italy so I don’t know if he has my vote anymore

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[-] plinky@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

Advanced pinkwashing studies:

If you make 50-100 thousands lgbtq people in palestine homeless, and kill around 500 of them, thats actually adavancing minority rights, because you'll allow them to wave rainbow flag.

Allowing their immigration out of gaza beforehand is out of question

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Before - I wondered what Israel would say after they intentionally bombed a hospital. Now I think I know.

I believe after they've killed hundreds (or god forbid more) in a hospital they're going to say something like "Our forces took incoming fire from Al-Shifa hospital and we responded." Eventually the Israelis will be forced to admit that they used "from" very elastically. But they'll keep insisting that they had no choice and that Hamas is responsible for the deaths because they use Gazans as human shields, etc.

And of course - once they bomb a hospital - they'll make it clear every single square centimeter of Gaza is in their mind a legitimate target. All they need to do is say "Hamas shot at us from roughly the location of that square centimeter."

Israeli troops engaged in “ongoing intense fighting” near Al-Shifa hospital, army tells CNN

The Israeli army has told CNN it is engaged in “ongoing intense fighting” against Hamas in the vicinity of the Al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City but refused to comment further on its forces’ proximity to the complex because military activity was still underway.

Medics at the hospital say the complex has been hit by artillery fire, but Israeli army spokespeople in a separate telephone briefing with journalists on Saturday did not address those reports.

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-11-11-23/h_beba0ddf94f484c01ad8703a66778981


Edit 1

Israeli army shoots at people trying to flee hospital: Aid group | Al Jazeera

Tweet embeds at the link.


Edit 2

I'm reading worse and worse news every hour. Emphasis mine. This isn't creepy at all.

Israeli military says another hospital has been all but evacuated

We've been bringing you lines today from the Al-Shifa, Al-Quds and Al-Ahli hospitals - and our diplomatic correspondent has news from a fourth medical facility in the besieged Gaza Strip.

This morning, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) briefed reporters on the situation at one of Gaza’s smaller hospitals, the Rantisi specialist hospital in the Rimal neighbourhood.

The IDF said the facility had been all but evacuated in the past few days - with no more than about 20 patients in beds still inside, along with a handful of staff.

An officer identified only as Maj Shai, of the Givati Brigade, said that after several days of trying to persuade civilians to leave the hospital, a large group finally left on Thursday, but only after chaotic scenes.

Video that emerged yesterday showed civilians, waving white flags, leaving the hospital courtyard - but coming under fire and having to retreat back inside. Maj Shai said Hamas gunmen were responsible for the shooting. “Hamas terrorists were shooting at them in order to scare them back in.”

Having identified members of Hamas in the crowd and the hospital, he said his unit decided it was too risky to deploy snipers and let everyone go.

The IDF clearly regards the near-total evacuation of Rantisi hospital as a model it would like to see repeated elsewhere, especially Al-Shifa.

But that hospital is much larger, and the operation there is clearly much more complex.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67385263?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=654f95cc1ec331355f9628f5%26Israeli%20military%20says%20another%20hospital%20has%20been%20all%20but%20evacuated%262023-11-11T14%3A55%3A09.228Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:591629eb-8ded-4f10-b5e3-bc57812306a7&pinned_post_asset_id=654f95cc1ec331355f9628f5&pinned_post_type=share

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

Al Jazeera - this is the entire update...

~16m ago

Israeli raid in Jenin kills at least 14 people

The rise in the death toll means that 18 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli forces in the occupied West Bank on Thursday.

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[-] iheartmold@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago
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[-] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

It is reported Gennadiy Chastiakov was showing his son a box of grenades he had received as a gift when the incident occurred, Interior Minister Igor Klymenko said in a statement on Telegram.

"At first, the son took the munition in his hands and began to turn the ring," Mr Klymenko said Monday local time.

"Then the serviceman took the grenade away from the child and pulled the ring, causing a tragic explosion."

Earlier the Ukrainian army commander-in-chief, General Valery Zaluzhny, said an "unknown explosive device detonated in one of his gifts".

"Under tragic circumstances, my assistant and close friend, Major Gennadiy Chastiakov, was killed … on his birthday," He said on Telegram.

happy birthday, grennadiy!

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[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

What happens if China suddenly decides to dump all US T bonds tomorrow?

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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

Israeli media be like "Tel Aviv struck by 10-mile-wide asteroid travelling at Mach 50; 7 critical injuries and 10 wounded"

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[-] professionalduster@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

has there actually been any video from Hamas showing infantry combat? all the videos I've seen show them destroying vehicles etc.

addendum: is this the occupation forces being too scared to fight an infantry battle? or is it a pragmatic call (they don't really have to, they're safer in tanks, etc). I don't understand how war works.

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[-] Sasuke@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago
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[-] capitanazo@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

FUCK ISRAEL, FREE PALESTINE, STREAM HOUDINI!!!!!

[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

Funny drama video of Will Stancil getting dunked on by the 🔻 brigades: twitter / nitter

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[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

Former IOF Benzie Sanders on CNN says Israel making 'catastrophic mistake' in Gaza, there needs to be. Political solution with a Palestine state, and Bibi has to go.

CW descriptions of war crimes.

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