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From Naked Capitalism:

...one has to wonder what the latest Blinken round of visits to the Middle East was supposed to accomplish, since all it did was expose our impotence. Even the Financial Times could not hide that the meetings with Netanyahu and then Arab leaders were a train wreck. Netanyahu rejected even any itty bitty ceasefire, branded a humanitarian pause, to get relief in, demanding that Hamas release all hostages first. The fact that Israel has welched or underperformed on its past begrudging promises to let trucks from Egypt in, would make that a non-starter even before getting to Hamas being sure to stick to its position of wanting to trade hostages for Palestinian prisoners. And of course the Arab states are not about to budge. Blinken got a more pointed version of what he was told before.

Antony Blinken faced intense pressure from regional allies to facilitate an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, laying bare the stark gap between US support for Israel and the outrage in Arab capitals over the siege and bombardment of the strip….

Sameh Shoukry, the Egyptian foreign minister, demanded an unconditional ceasefire, a commitment that Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu bluntly rejected after meeting Blinken on Friday.

Blinken had been expected to “brainstorm” with Arab diplomats the future of Gaza, home to 2.3mn Palestinians, after the war ends. Safadi bluntly rejected those talks as premature. “How can we even entertain what will happen in Gaza when we do not know how Gaza will be left?” he asked Blinken. “Are we going to be talking about a wasteland? Are we talking about a whole population reduced to refugees?”

This comes off as the sort of thing someone who had just read classic texts on negotiating trying to put in practice: “Gee, let’s get a dialogue going! Let’s get to ‘Yes’ on some less fraught issues to pave the way for further agreement!” In addition, “brainstorming” is cringemakingly American. You don’t do that with people who are mad at you. You don’t do that in a crisis. Between independent entities, you do not do that at the top level. You have low level people or emissaries float ideas. So why this exercise? The worst is that Biden and Blinken come off as so disconnected from reality that they though they might get someone to accommodate US needs.


Friendly reminder: when commenting about a news event, especially something that just happened, please provide a source of some kind. While ideally this would be on nitter or archived, any source is preferable to none at all given.

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Lebanon! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.



Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

You're going to have to (hex)bear with me on the update this week. Have you been feeling generally pretty terrible this last month or so? So have I, and doomscrolling and archiving it all is my quasi-job at this point. Not good, folks, more and more people are saying it. I'll get over it eventually.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At the top of the hour I checked MSNBC to see what was happening in Gaza. Stupid me - "Remember - these results are preliminary..." They're breathlessly covering the US elections even though nearly all (all?) results are hours away.

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[-] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~There are claims emerging that the bulk of the civilian casualties were perpetrated by Isisrael shooting at the crowds running away with machinegun fire from repeated helicopter sweeps. This only emerged a few hours ago so will take time to verify and research. While Isnotreal is definetely not above even killing its own settlers for atrocity propaganda, the findings could be pretty damning.~~

Oh and would you look at that, in the time it took me to finish work and take the bus home, there really is evidence that Isisreal literally did in fact, fire on the concert participants with several sweeps of fucking 30mm autocannons from Apache helicopters, opting to shoot apart anything that moved, friend or foe. I had suspicions and heard claims of false flags since the afternoon of 7 October, but nothing that really constituted hard evidence, despite its plausibility. And the "pretty damning findings" turned out to be correct.

Of course not that it will matter to a regiment of 500,000 Andrev Breiviks, but another bit of evidence for a bit of justified fedposting.

Eliav Bellend also came to the realization that Pissreal's bombs can't reach anywhere remotely even close to South Africa, hence the racism factory on 428 King's Drive, Lynnwood/Pretoria working overtime.

PIGPOOPBALLS idf-cool PIGPOOPBALLS idf-cool PIGPOOPBALLS idf-cool PIGPOOPBALLS idf-cool PIGPOOPBALLS idf-cool PIGPOOPBALLS idf-cool

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

CW - IOF body bags

https://streamable.com/sasu6t

Israeli soldier says they have trouble keeping the bodies of their soldiers, they smell very bad even though it has only been 1 day since they died. Notable video I think because of the mention that these were all within 1 day.

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[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

Was just reading about the Trump/Kushner “peace plan” they proposed. I mean, most Israeli proposals are dogshit, but this was so bad. Palestinians give the Israelis everything they want up front and then maybe - MAYBE - years down the line IF the Palestinians keep to a huge list of impossible commitments that the US and Israel totally won’t renege on… then maybe the Palestinians get something sorta kinda like a state. It was so obviously just Kushner transcribing Netanyahu’s wish list.

And Trump is such a genius, he thought a deal was possible by taking Jerusalem and the settlements off the table. Like, tell the Palestinians no matter what they can’t have any Jerusalem and the settlements will continue, and that would somehow make a deal MORE possible.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

When you're defintinely, absolutely "not shooting at the hospital and there is no siege" at the Al-Shifa Hospital. An IDF tweet...

"There is no shooting at the hospital and there is no siege. The East Side of the hospital remains open."

Nitter

There's a IDF turd speaking in Arabic with English subtitles. I wonder what the propaganda is in English language vids.

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[-] professionalduster@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-67390343

police in the UK have arrested over 80 counter-protesters, who were chanting things such as "you aren't English anymore" to the police

at least 300k people there. look at the pictures, they're pretty incredible

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[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh my god the CIAnarcho-Bastard is back

PMING MY LEMMYGRAD ACCOUNT?

aight, this calls for the big guns

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[-] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

had a decent conversation with coworkers today about isreal/palestine and geopolitics in general. i had to hide my power level a bit but we talked about differences between anti zionism and anti semitism, i pushed back on the narrative that "muslims and jews just hate each other bro 10000 years constant fighting" by using early iraq and palestine as examples contrary to that, and we even talked about ww3 a third front and even the juxtaposition of all the goons at work wanting to bet on a basketball game on one tv and the genocide on the other.

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[-] stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago
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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hezbollah has accelerated operations yet further today - more anti-tank missile attacks, more drones, more rockets, etc. Up the escalation ladder we climb. This clearly proves that Hezbollah is too weak of a force to counter Israel and is uninterested in a regional war.

[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago
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[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Long ass tweet about PIJ, and how they’re not some spooky scary ISIS like group:

putting it in spoiler cuz it’s so long.

The Palestinian Islamic Jihad is often viewed in the west as an "extremist" group, mostly a misunderstanding based on their oh-so "scary" name.

Last Monday I was speaking to a Palestinian with considerable knowledge on the Palestinian resistance factions, and he told me something very interesting about the PIJ.

The PIJ is a fighting organization, not a political organization in the traditional sense. Unlike Hamas, Fatah or even the PFLP, the PIJ do not have any set-in-stone vision for a future Palestinian state.

The PIJ does not envision political leadership in a liberated Palestine. Their political program makes it abundantly clear that they will leave political decision-making be up to the Palestinian people to decide.

Their refusal to engage in bureaucratic politics also makes them the only resistance group none of their other groups dare to criticize. By solely focusing on the armed struggle, the PIJ would never be involved in murky corruption scandals like other groups have been in the past.

The PIJ is a moderately religious organization, and perhaps one could argue even more moderate than Hamas. Their political program calls for the total unification of the Islamic nation between both Sunnis and Shias, and envisions the fostering of a democratic culture in which all internal disputes can be resolved in a respectful and grounded manner without the interference of foreign powers.

Palestinian hunger striker Khader Adnan who passed away in May this year due to starvation from his hunger strike, was affiliated with the PIJ, and served as their spokesman in the early 2000s. He was a respected figure by all Palestinians across the political spectrum, and would often be seen mingling with student groups from all factions. Khader Adnan was, in many ways, the physical embodiment of the political catch-all nature of the PIJ.

And a few other key points that are also important to highlight:

The PIJ holds Palestinian Christians to exceptionally high esteem, and sees them as a crucial component to not just the Palestinian national identity, but to the struggle as well. They consider Palestine's Christian community to have exerted, and I quote, "a noteworthy and discernible influence on the trajectory of the Palestinian struggle."

On the question regarding the PIJ's stance towards Jews and Judaism, consider this translated excerpt from their political program: “Our fight for Palestine is directed against the Israeli establishment, which has seized our homeland and opposes our people and our nation. Any Jewish individual residing outside this establishment, irrespective of their location, does not endorse or back ‘Israel’ in its occupation of our land and rights, and is not an adversary us. We do not regard them as our foes. Our stance regarding others is determined by their stance on Palestine, regardless of their faith or heritage.”

https://twitter.com/aldanmarki/status/1722135302792237248
https://nitter.net/aldanmarki/status/1722135302792237248

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[-] Satanic_Mills@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

I just saw a dead child in Gaza with their head blown open on twitter without a graphic content warning.

I understand what the poster was trying to do but who are you helping at that point?

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

Thank you, David Frum. I can feel more democracy, more liberty, and more freedom growing in the world!

Did you know that under Biden, U.S. production of artillery shells will more than quadruple?

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago
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[-] Trustmeitsnotabailou@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

Libs are addicted to Trump derangement. Seeing so many post about bidens horrible polls and all they can talk about is, i don't under stand!!! Don't they know orange man bad!

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

FLEEING SOUTH, PALESTINIANS DESCRIBE DEATH AND MISERY

DEIR AL-BALAH, Gaza Strip — A stream of thousands of Palestinians have taken what few belongings they can carry and made their way on foot Friday to the relative safety of the southern Gaza Strip after Israel announced an hourslong window for safe passage.

More than 720,000 displaced people across the Gaza Strip were sheltering at 150 facilities run by UNRWA, the U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees, as of Thursday.

One woman who was displaced from Beit Lahiya in the north, Umm al-Adhan, spoke to The Associated Press on Gaza’s main highway as as people trudged past heading southward. She said she had been sheltering in a UNRWA school.

“Yesterday, as we were leaving the school, they fired at us,” she said. “Ten people were killed, including my nephew.”

A badly wounded child begged for water in his final moments.

“I could not find water to give him. He died in front of me,” she said, crying.

Israel estimates that more than 850,000 of the 1.1 people in northern Gaza have left, and later Friday said over 100,000 Palestinians have gone south in the past two days.

At shelters, the lack of water makes it hard to maintain even basic hygiene.

Families are packed into a school building in Deir al-Balah, in central Gaza, with tents set up in the playground, washing hung up to dry in corridors and children sleeping on mats next to their worried parents.

Suzan Wahidi, from Gaza City, says as many as seven people might share a mattress — if they can find one.

“Our children are now suffering from an epidemic, ” she said. “They suffer from all the diseases that you can imagine, diarrhea, vomiting, fever. There are no medicines, there is no food to provide us.”

- AP

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[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Israeli" media has broadcast a video of a military bulldozer driving over a prone Palestinian civilian

I think it's time for me to log off

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[-] Dull_Juice@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

Thousands of Egyptian fans of the Al-Ahly Football Club, based out of Cairo, chant in solidarity with Palestine.

Breakthrough News on Twitter Nitter

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

I noticed something I hadn't seen since the war started. An American correspondent in Israel streaming live wearing business clothes. Is this meant to mean that - bad pun intended - it's business as usual in Tel Aviv?

Also an MNSBC anchor just called the four hour pause a "window of hope". And then she asked a go-to military guy (an ex-supreme commander of NATO) what he thought of it. In unsurprising news - he's a MIC mouthpiece.

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[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

Local subreddit is pissed about the Palestine protest today

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago
[-] buh@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

#BREAKING| According to testimonies by Palestinians displaced from Al Naser neighborhood in western #Gaza, American soldiers were on the ground participating in #Israel's offensive on #Gaza.

https://twitter.com/qudsnen/status/1723791891311792484
https://nitter.net/qudsnen/status/1723791891311792484

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[-] milistanaccount09@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

https://archive.ph/90ukk

Middle East Monitor: Spain ‘neo Nazi’ mercenary among others helping Israel in Gaza

Long story short, per the Spanish newspaper El Mundo, this guy Pedro Diaz Flores who fought with other neo nazis in Ukraine last year, said that he's being paid by Israel now. Flores says that mercenaries are only being used for security support and not directly participating in the fighting. He, personally, is stationed in the Golan Heights. An additional note of context about the history of mercenaries working with the IDF follows:

“We are in charge of the security of the checkpoints and access control on the borders of Gaza and Jordan. There are many PMCs [private military companies] here and they share the work. Traditionally they have guarded border terminals between Eliat and Aqaba,” [Flores] added.

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[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

new Moon of Alabama

A Few Notes On The War On Palestine

Having been lightly prodded by the Biden administration the Netanyahoo regime in Palestine agreed to split its days into a 20 hours block dedicated to genociding Palestinians and a 4 hours block for ethnic cleansing.

continues at https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/11/notes-on-the-war-on-palestine.html

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

U.S. diplomats slam Israel policy in leaked memo - POLITICO

The document offers a window into internal fury at the State Department over President Joe Biden’s Middle East policies.

State Department staffers offered a blistering critique of the Biden administration’s handling of the Israel-Hamas war in a dissent memo obtained by POLITICO, arguing that, among other things, the U.S. should be willing to publicly criticize the Israelis.

Slams? Fury? Blistering? I'm certain they didn't even use the word "must". Anyway - there's this...

The memo has two key requests: that the U.S. support a ceasefire, and that it balance its private and public messaging toward Israel, including airing criticisms of Israeli military tactics and treatment of Palestinians that the U.S. generally prefers to keep private.

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