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[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 347 points 1 year ago

We legalized marijuana too!

I don’t smoke weed and I don’t have a uterus, but I voted to protect both and I’m glad we won!

[-] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 186 points 1 year ago

What? You voted to support someone ELSE'S freedom?

Blasphemy.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago

Hey everybody! This guy doesn't have a uterus!

[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago

Could be a lady, sometimes those hysters gotta be ectomied.

[-] rosymind@leminal.space 28 points 1 year ago

I like the use of "guy" as unisex. Like the word "dude"

He's a dude, she's a dude, they're all dudes

I use "guys" plural to refer to any group of people, including all women/girl groups. I know saying "that guy" still means "that man/boy" but I'm hoping people will adopt it as completely unisex

A guy can dream (I'm a cis woman btw)

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[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I don’t smoke weed and I don’t have a uterus

Same and I'm personally anti-abortion, but that's my personal stance and I have no right to try to force that on others.

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[-] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 185 points 1 year ago

Issue 1 covers so much more than just Abortion.

From the ballot:

  • Establish in the Constitution of the State of Ohio an individual right to one’s own reproductive medical treatment, including but not limited to abortion.
  • Create legal protections for any person or entity that assists a person with receiving reproductive medical treatment, including but not limited to abortion.
  • Prohibit the State from directly or indirectly burdening, penalizing, or prohibiting abortion before an unborn child is determined to be viable, unless the State demonstrates that it is using the least restrictive means.
  • Grant a pregnant woman’s treating physician the authority to determine, on a case-by-case basis, whether an unborn child is viable.
  • Only allow the State to prohibit an abortion after an unborn child is determined by a pregnant woman’s treating physician to be viable and only if the physician does not consider the abortion necessary to protect the pregnant woman’s life or health.
  • Always allow an unborn child to be aborted at any stage of pregnancy, regardless of viability if, in the treating physician’s determination, the abortion is necessary to protect the pregnant woman’s life or health.

This is a Freedom of Speech type amendment that centers around a person's reproductive rights. In that this amendment prohibits the Ohio State government from passing any law that restricts a person's reproductive rights except in special cases under strict scrutiny. So this goes way pass just abortion. Additionally, it grants doctors benefit of the doubt protections that would have strict scrutiny bars for the State to overcome, an incredibly high evidentiary bar for the State to overcome.

To just say this protects abortion is really missing the forest for the tree. Yeah, it protects abortion but additionally it protects everything related to reproductive rights (contraception, IVF, etc) and sets a massive barrier for the State to later meddle. This is a massive win for not those seeking abortion but for everyone who cheers reproductive protection and Government non-intervention in such matters.

[-] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 23 points 1 year ago

This is a Freedom of Speech type amendment that centers around a person's reproductive rights

Watch the Supreme Court challenge reproductive rights as free speech.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

It doesn't say reproductive rights are free speech, it says they are as important as free speech.

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[-] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 158 points 1 year ago

I could actually cry right now, what a fucking relief

[-] LordOfTheChia@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's also by a pretty decent margin so far:

With 59% reporting:

55.9% For

44.1% Against

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/11/07/us/elections/results-ohio-issue-1-abortion-rights.html

Edit:

56.6% For

43.4% against

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

I don't live in Ohio, but I'm right on the state border. So many "vote no on issue 1" signs around here. I was worried that it would fail. Glad to see otherwise.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's been polling consistently strong. Those signs you were seeing on the border are not representative of where the majority of Ohioans live.

What people need to take away from this is that the majority very often want things that are denied to them by a minority of voters who have been given disproportionate control.

What were seeing is direct democracy in action. No gerrymandered districts, just the people voting for what they fuck they want, and majority rules.

If we had more of that (not full direct democracy 24/7 but more than we have now) you'd see a lot more popular things actually get done.

There's danger there, populism is a double edged sword, but the opposite extreme is what we have now: a majority of people consistently and perpetually having their will undermined by a minority entirely because of their zip code, while the Republicans the minority gives power to continue to make this even worse.

When you actually look at national polling, the majority of people want a lot of things that have no hope of ever making it through Congress any time in the near future because of obstruction from red states that get disproportionate power entirely because of geography. This is untenable.

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[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 113 points 1 year ago

When Kansas and then Ohio thoroughly shoot holes in your platform and you're the dominant party in those places, maybe you should start re-thinking your platform.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 64 points 1 year ago

No, it's the voters who are wrong

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Greene's takeaway was literally "we're losing because we're not extreme enough on abortion.'

I guess that means Republicans will start proposing that any woman who even thinks of getting an abortion should be thrown in prison and any woman who suffers a miscarriage should be tried for murder.

Then, they'll wonder why they are losing even worse!

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

There are already states that have been trying to criminalize miscarriages unless they can be "proven" to not be the result of an abortion.

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[-] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

"You don't want that. You think you do, but you don't."

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[-] Nougat@kbin.social 111 points 1 year ago

Issue 2, legalizing recreational marijuana for people over 21, is also projected to pass.

[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 year ago

Psychedelics need to be next. That step will take a bit, but it'll be awesome if that happens.

Colorado did good in setting the example, I believe. There wasn't a huge push to monetize it and the most common psychedelics were made fully legal to produce, use and give away.

In some ways, I don't really see mushrooms easily fitting into the dispensary model that we have here already. It's just a different kind of drug, s'all.

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[-] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 105 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And this is after they tried very very hard to rig the election to put obstacles in the way of people voting for the measure.

Actually getting abortion bans in place is the "dog that caught the car" moment for Republicans. The world is so complicated and people have so little attention to spare, that the GOP can get away with blaming "the economy" or "jobs" or "crime" on the Democrats, and for the most part, people who support them will go with it, even though they spend most of their time being in power making the problems worse and stealing money for themselves and their friends.

Abortion is dead simple. If people know someone who's suffering in a terrifying way, and it's because of something the Republicans have been banging their fists on the table about how bad they want to do it for the last fifty years, it becomes a lot harder to shift the blame.

Edit: I backwards

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[-] BeanGoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 100 points 1 year ago

As a Michigander this is physically painful to say... but you done good Ohio.

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[-] lutillian@sh.itjust.works 67 points 1 year ago

Anyone else notice how the "why do you want to kill babies" crowd has fallen mostly silent on these posts? It's almost like they never had any real horse in this race, and now that most of them aren't being paid to stir people up they've got nothing to say.

[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The real ones probably just got tired of seeing /\ 2 \/ 101 underneath their posts and slunk back underneath their bridge

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[-] Zealousideal_Fox900@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

FUCK YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! This is some great fucking news for everyone with more then a single braincell.

[-] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

The right wing fought SO HARD to prevent his from happening.

But it's not like the loss is going to do anything to change their beliefs or actions.

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[-] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck yeah! You love to see it!! I was a poll worker today and the turnout was incredible. I obviously don't know who voted for what but it was great to see.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago
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[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

Get scared repubs. Maybe there is a pendulum.

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[-] macisr@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am from another country. I have to say that in your movies and shows they have always painted Ohio as being a backwards state. I guess that this goes to show that everything changes. Now Ohio seems to be more civilized than a lot of other states that were the "modern" standard. I love change, it's so refreshing to see new generations at last making a change statewide.

[-] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Ohio as being a backwards state.

The People that LIVE in Ohio are not nearly as backwards as the gerrymandered elections elect representatives from.

Clearly, this result is absolute proof that the gerrymandering of Ohio is ABSOLUTELY NOT properly representing the WILL of actual Ohio Voters .

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[-] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Ohio has more complex political environment than a lot of states. It sits on the border of a number of major geographic features, and host a relatively large, diverse population. It's swung hard right over the past decade as the Republicans embraced populism, but has always been more left-leaning than many of its neighbors. This state is a political and cultural circus, but I wouldn't have it any other way (well, a bit bluer would be nice).

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[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Not quite. It's just that abortion is such a powerful issue that it activates the left to actually get out and vote. Any time it has been on a ballot, it wins, and democrats tend to win other positions on that same ballot.

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is wonderful! It's a great day when the voice of justice for the people can cancel out unrepresentative government!

This is also a great example of why federal referendums would be a game changer. Thanks to gerrymandering, an enormous incumbent advantage and an even bigger incumbent PARTY advantage, most politicians in Washington tend to be a decade or two behind their constituents on most issues, if not in a completely different world. Asking voters directly could shake that up.

Sadly, it would probably require a constitutional amendment which is already de facto impossible BEFORE you take into account that most people in Congress would be against it, but a guy can dream!

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[-] Scew@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

It's being sold as abortion rights, but the language is pretty broad and supports everyone's reproductive rights. Yay human rights!

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Nice job, Ohio!

[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Shout-out to this article for putting the percentage in the article/headline.

I read two different articles and none of them included the 57% number.

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[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago

Ohio still sucks but at least passing through will be bearable now

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

Yeah well feel free to enjoy some of our lovely weed and abortions when you do.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck yes! I’m so proud of us

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