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Progress in government is made in steps. Scheduling to 3 allows research. Research that will show it's no worse than alcohol. Then we push for removal from the schedule.
Research already shows this, there are more countries than america
Maybe. But there aren't more countries than America that our government would listen to.
Not to mention 38 states have legalized it for medical use. What is there to study with regard to removing the legal penalties federally?
Also, are there any studies supporting it being banned? As I understand it, it was a PR campaign and moral panic that lead to its ban on the first place, not anything rational.
The research at the time said not to ban it because it is reasonably safe for consumption and banning it would cause social unrest and distrust of the government. Check out "A Signal of Misunderstanding: The First Report of the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse", a report from a commission created by Richard Nixon with the passage of the 1969 Narcotics Act.
I wish I could agree that we need studies to convince our rational leaders in government to make the rational actions based on available evidence, because that's what drives changes in government.
The best way to remove it from the schedule is to dismantle prison slave labor. Financial incentives for imprisoning people will always lead here and are immoral. However, I offer a false solution, because I don't have a way to implement it.
It’ll get rescheduled when Big Pharma comes up with a potion that does a better job and that they can sell for $10k per dose. So long as cannabis works better than anything they can monetize, they’ll fight to keep it illegal. And they have very deep pockets.
The only reason cannabis is Schedule I is to "felonize" people who are more likely to vote against Republicans, so their right to vote can be taken away. Pharmceutical companies would frankly love for it to be descheduled, so they can research and develop it for prescription uses.
Yep. That's the real answer!
A better job at what, getting you high? Pretty sure they already have that, and while it doesn't net them 10k per dose the Sacklers would have liked that very much no doubt.
A better job at treating a range of physical and mental health issues. Recreation is just a bonus.
I think people need to actually research THC and cannabinoids. The handful of studies that have been done on them show that it's no better than OTC medication in all but the very rarest cases.
Medical marijuana is a complete hoax, it was always about making money and getting high.
It won’t fix anything. Rescheduling has been a stupid focus the entire time.
While true, an inch foreword is better than a mile backwards. And any movement whatsoever from the federal government is a sign that there are finally cracks forming in the dam.
Rescheduling MJ federally would make zero difference. De-scheduling would be the only meaningful change.
the key bit will be whatever federal legislation allows headshops/bodegas to use the banking systems like a normal business would.
The feds have already made it perfectly clear that they're not going to interfere with legal cannabis sales at the state level - even while it's Schedule I - as evidenced by ::gestures widely::. As long as there's no interstate transportation, rescheduling it isn't going to change anything.
Point is it's a stroke of a pen to change the priority... One president or one DEA switch away. The supreme court upheld Roe V Wade which was why it wasn't important to codify it into law... until it was.
The current state of affairs is the justification employers use for continuing to test and discipline folks for usage even in legal or medically legal states. It's also the justification banks use for not allowing dispensaries to use their services.
"The justification"
They don't legally need a justification. The reality is that drug tests just like felony checks are very good filters for bad employees. If a company actually needs employees they won't do them, or lower the standards so low that anyone that isn't actively injecting or murdering someone would pass.
The moment there isn't federal law to lean on, I hope for and expect court cases predicated on the fact that there's no basis for an employer to care more about whether someone has smoked cannabis in the past thirty days than they do about whether that same employee gets blackout drunk every Friday and Saturday night - nor for that matter if the person responsibly drinks a couple beers after work some nights. (Or is someone pushing to detect alcohol use within the past 30 days as a reason to disqualify employment?)
Neither of those details of their lives speaks to someone's sobriety at work, and the basis for considering marijuana usage as somehow "worse" is rooted directly in the racist basis for policies enacted at the very start of cannabis prohibition.
The reality is that drug tests just like felony checks are very good filters for bad employees.
If this is true, drug testing should start at the CEO.
Edit2: Hanging onto this for 2 months before replying, or just like trolling through old cannabis discussions looking for an argument, or...?
"the past 30 days"
So you literally don't know how drug tests work? Marijuana clears an oral test in about a day, most jobs that test for it simply tell you to come back the next day. This is in legal state, and covers the vast majority of jobs. If you can't be sober for a full 24-hrs before a pre-employment check you're an addict. This would be like if someone admitted to being drunk the morning of an interview.
"Neither of those details speaks to sobriety at work"
Again you're confused by the efficacy of drug tests. If you can't be sober for 1 or 2 days to get your job that you applied for, it's far less likely that you are going to be sober on the clock. (Few places do uranalysis, and I've literally never heard of a blood or hair test which are the ones that actually can reliably test that far back).
Strictly speaking you cannot prove that the person who shot heroin during your interview, is also going to do drugs on the clock. It is however a very good indicator that they are unprofessional, will be a bad employee and are quite likely to drugs on the clock. Companies don't just spend thousands of dollars a year to be cruel to employees.
I was thinking urinalysis, which I was always told was ~30 days. It doesn't change the argument.
C-level or anyone in the company exempt? Do we monitor alcohol usage so closely? Would people tolerate it if we did? Federal law is the only reasonable basis for an employer to be testing for off the clock use of a drug that is legal or decriminalized in that state. Otherwise it's an invasion of privacy. And yes, it is, whether you tell me it legally is or not.
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