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I had someone steel this and change “butts” to “Christian” and weirdly enough, lengthen my skirt. Kept the flame boots, but no short skirts.

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[-] navitux@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago
[-] MrMonkey@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Too many people would change their minds based on what the sign says.

Does you reaction change if the sign read: "Black Lives Matter" or if it read "Back the Blue"?

Or one that says "Trans women are women" vs "trans women aren't women"?

Or "pineapple on pizza is ok" vs "pinapple on pizza is the work of the devil"?

[-] koorool@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago

We must not be tolerant to intolerance is the basis for me.

[-] reverendz@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago
[-] button_masher@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Thank you for that. Really informative and a fun read.

[-] SneakyWeasel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Honestly, the first thing that I thought about was what if the sign had a slur word. Sure freedom of speech means say what you wanna say, that doesn't mean people aren't gonna sock you in the face.

[-] Robaque@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The problem with free speech is probs that what people are really fighting over is who gets to control and define what "free" speech is. Only in an anarchist society would free speech really be as you described - say what you want, but be prepared to face the consequences of your words (and actions). Without the protection of government and socio/economic hierarchies, bigots wouldn't feel quite as invincible while they spew hate and oppression.

[-] NightAuthor@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I think I’m still of the mind that “intent to incite violence” is the line. And even that can be crossed when the government needs to be overthrown.

But I could be convinced otherwise

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[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

what year is this, 2015?

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago

Let's replace the word with "N*****" and see if you still feel clever

[-] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

Let's replace some of the words in your comment to "I am a pooopoo head and I eat poopoo", and see how do you feel then. Bet pretty stupid, huh?

[-] Numuruzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

The point still stands, in the minutiae you're addressing. People post absolute garbage opinions on a regular basis, and are free to do so, as long as their platform allows it. This doesn't go into the consequences of pissing off a lot of people, but you're still free to do it.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago

The point does not stand. I don't think any set of rules that sees "N***** N***** N*****" as acceptable speech should be respected, nor any person who thinks that way.

[-] Numuruzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

I agree with the spirit, but I disagree with what the point of the comic is - it's not trying to make a point about respect per se, just about freedom of speech. Even if you wouldn't be a part of a community that allows hate speech, if you encounter it "in the street" so to speak - there's just nothing you can do.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago

I know it's saying that, and I think that's bullshit.

[-] CaptainEffort@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Not a single person said it was “acceptable speech”.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago

The mentioned "platform" implies it is acceptable by allowing it

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[-] R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago

You can't see the difference between "butts" and the n word?

[-] darcy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

hey, its freedom to offend, right ?

[-] R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago

Hate speech and offensive speech are very different lol

[-] darcy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

where do u draw the line?

(genuine question ,, not advocating hate speech)

[-] jarfil@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Hate speech is a call to attack some people.

It may sometimes sound like "just offensive", since it often uses offensive code words to coordinate an attack.

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[-] richyawyingtmv@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Real life footage of this actually happening, and the result: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8DJGw3rIwI

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