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[-] negativenull@startrek.website 48 points 11 months ago

Given the trajectory of current politics, the Bell Riots are definitely possible in that timeframe.

[-] teft@startrek.website 16 points 11 months ago

Are you a changeling that took over negativenull or did you just switch servers?

[-] FlatFootFox@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

Anyone else think that Gabriel Bell looks just like Commander Sisko?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago
[-] teft@startrek.website 26 points 11 months ago

That’s Benny Russell. I don’t know who this Sisko guy is but I’ve read many of Benny’s stories.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Yeah, but he didn't end up doing so well...

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I just got tingles thinking about that performance. That was an amazing story.

[-] aaaa@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

All hu-mons look alike to me

[-] Zink@programming.dev 35 points 11 months ago

I just watched this episode a couple days ago. Some of it is way too applicable to current day, particularly the part about how it takes a huge tragedy for the population to realize that maybe we should make society nice for other people.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

particularly the part about how it takes a huge tragedy for the population to realize that maybe we should make society nice for other people.

I'm not sure how accurate that really is anymore.

[-] negativenull@startrek.website 22 points 11 months ago

If Ulvade and/or SandyHook didn't change anything, nothing else will. :/

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

What's astounding to me is any of us old enough to remember 9/11 remember the phrase "9/11 changed everything." But school after school has massacres of children and it changes nothing.

[-] negativenull@startrek.website 19 points 11 months ago

I remember it well. 9/11 did change lots of things (not for the better either), but it did galvanize the nation. Now my son has to have active-shooter drills in school and we have to act like it's normal. I guess that is new/changed.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

It galvanized the nation for about 4 days, until GWB and other prominent politicians set the populace upon itself, and the divide widened.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Well, you don't want the kind of change that 9/11 brought.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago

The difference is that 9/11 was able to be channeled into xenophobia. The same can't really happen with school shootings. The 40k mindset of hate being a valuable and limited resource hits way too close to home.

And it's all a tragedy.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

COVID should have done something. It was a world wide issue.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Politically, it did do something. It was a useful wedge issue for republican politicians to take advantage of, at the cost of people's lives.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I meant something good.
That's what we're talking about.

[-] CarlsIII@kbin.social 20 points 11 months ago

particularly the part about how it takes a huge tragedy for the population to realize that maybe we should make society nice for other people.

I wish that was how it worked! Society would have been so much nicer by now.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 13 points 11 months ago

Yeah there’s there tragic undertone to the whole thing as well. It showed the underclass actually standing up for themselves rather than fighting to keep inequality in place.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That is how society works.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

What I found most concerning about this episode was that the refugee encampments, which were supposed to represent ultimate poverty, despair, and oppression, look a damned sight nicer than bad areas in San Francisco and Los Angeles today.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

I don't know that I'd go that far.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Actual picture of Los Angeles:

And another

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

I guess I would call it as close to that as TV gets. I don't think I would really describe it as nicer, certainly not a damned sight nicer, just not put together by a set designer and limited by a budget that restricted the number of extras they could hire.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I guess what the pictures don't convey is how fucked up the people are, and how awful the ambient sound and sights are. This is a video someone made of Philadelphia at night, and it's quite shocking.

Edit: they also don't convey the scope of the problem. This homeless in L.A. goes on for mile after mile. There's a video out there of someone driving through Skid Row in L.A. and it's like 10 miles long. It is absolutely unbelievable to me how big the problem is.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I'm not trying to say it isn't awful. I'm trying to say that they would have made it look that awful if they could have.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Oh, I gotcha now. Yes, I guess it's really just too clean, and the people too sane, which is a result of it being thrown together in under a week, on a limited budget.

Edit: also because it's a G rated TV show.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Also the show is worse in some ways. They were forced into camps that they could not leave, with no medical care, limited food, no jobs/etc.

That would definitely be some peoples preference for the current homeless, forcing undesirables into internment camps instead of dealing with the issue systemically, but that was part of the horror of the "show" setup.

[-] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

LA has 40k ppl sleeping on the streets any given night too.

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 15 points 11 months ago

There's a non zero chance Avery Brooks starts the Brooks riots in our timeline.

[-] sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 10 points 11 months ago

We SHOULD put up a statue to Avery Brooks. Why not? He's a dang treasure.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I mean the encampments came true. We just need a stone cold daddy with a hint of crazy to get the downtrodden's voice out now.

[-] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago
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