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[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bullshit. Manufacturing consent.

SSRS are a C+ pollster. I'd trust them about as far as I can throw them.

A fucking mail survey on top of that. Talk about self-selection.

The CNN poll was conducted by SSRS from July 1 through 31 among a random national sample of 1,279 adults initially reached by mail.

The margin of error could also make actual support go either way.

Results for the full sample have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.7 percentage points; it is larger for subgroups.

All in all, a completely useless poll.

[-] Calcharger@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Absolutely awesome find. Thanks for the input. My stomach sank when I read that article this morning on CNN. Couldn't believe we would give up our support so quickly

[-] IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And there’s that western heel turn, right on schedule. Between this and that "Ukraine is testing the patience of it's allies" article yesterday, it's pretty clear that US media has now begun manufacturing consent to decouple from Ukraine. We've been shipping them insufficient quantities of ammo for a while now, so I guess with the stalling out of the counteroffensive, the Pentagon has evidently decided that the battle lines have solidified, and the final closing of the money spigot, at least militarily, is at hand.

Most likely some diplomatic deal will be struck in the coming months to preserve the remaining Ukranian territory in a stable enough state for Blackrock and all the other speculators to reap the profit of all their new acqusitions. My heart goes out to the common people of Ukraine, the last ten years have been brutal for them (the coup, the Banderite resurgence, the killing of dissidents and labor organizers, and this meat grinder of a war), and it looks like with "radical privatization" on the horizon, the next ten years are gonna be even worse. I hope they can organize for some quality of life against the megacorporations planning to turn them into a banana republic after the war.

My second concern, and it's a concern that's never talked about until it's too late, is the blowback. Intervention is never without consequences. America' funding of fundamentalist militants against the USSR in Afghanistan created Al Queda. Western intervention against Saddamn Hussein (who's Baath party itself served as a western intervention against pan-Arab nationalism during the Cold War) sparked the Gulf War. The Gulf War set the stage for our invasion of Iraq, and our invasion of Iraq created ISIS. So what happens after the war, when all the leftover Azov guys, these staunch nationalists, look back at the west and see (correctly) the political bloc that put their government into power, sent them juust not quite enough materiel to win the war, and then abandoned their military to the Russian Federation and their people to venture capital? Much has already been written about the dissapearing of American weapons in Ukraine into Europe's various black markets, and when you combine that with the deluge of newly impoverished, traumatized and radicalized Ukranian combat veterans with an axe to grind against the west, you've got a hundred European 9/11s just waiting to happen. Pretty solid chance that 5 years from now, someone shoots down a passenger jet with a secondhand Javelin.

[-] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

I still remember the fake "onsite" reports "from Iraq".. CNN as phony as a two dollar bill

[-] NateSwift@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Wait what? Two dollar bills are real? Am I being wooshed?

[-] Drusas@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Two dollar bills are, in fact, real.

[-] NateSwift@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

now that two dollar bills are real. Rereading my comment it’s really ambiguous, but my question was about the phrase as real as a two dollar bill. Are they trying to imply that CNN isn’t fake?

[-] Drusas@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I think they are implying that CNN is fake, but they were misinformed about the reality of a $2 bill.

[-] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Completely wrong

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck CNN. Another useless "news" network like fawx news.

Get your news from AP directly or from PBS (who is the only news company that still follows the Fairness Doctrine)

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