This is a tough sell in civil court imo. You'd have to prove they knew she was dead based on the word gone. Maybe there's enough context there recorded but if your kid left with his gf on a trip and came back saying she was gone and they had split up I wouldn't necessarily think anything of it. Especially since they had been patchy b4 and also this was weeks later after she had supposedly split. I'm not convinced the parents knew or were told.
He said he needed a lawyer and the family went and got him one… you don’t need a lawyer for a break up.
I don't think getting a lawyer should be seen as an admission of guilt. Its dangerous for even 100% innocent people to talk to the police without a lawyer.
Preponderance of evidence is required in civil cases. In the same conversation, he both told his parents she was gone and also said he needed a lawyer.
"Gone" alone wouldn't make me suspicious. I would assume she left and didn't plant to come back. It's the "she's gone and I need a lawyer" part that would make me at least ask what kind of "gone" did you mean, son? It could have just been that he hit her and then she left and he expected legal repercussions. Parents don't usually jump to suspecting their kid of murder and I don't think there is a way to know without violating attorney client privilege.
The Petitos allege that Christopher and Roberta Laundrie received “a frantic telephone call” from their son on 29 August 2021 in which he said his betrothed Gabby was “gone” and that he “needed a lawyer”.
That same day, the Petitos allege, Christopher and Roberta Laundrie spoke with a lawyer, Steven Bertolino. The Laundries, from Florida, are accused of telling Bertolino that Petito was “gone” and their son needed an attorney.
Four days later, on 2 September 2021, the Laundries had paid Bertolino to retain his services, and he in turn entered into a fee agreement with a criminal defense law firm in Wyoming, the state where Petito would later be found dead.
Did you read that last paragraph?
How would the defense know to contract with a local firm where Gabby was murdered unless the defense were informed of the crime by their clients?
I anal, but I think defense attorneys are used for assault/DV as well as murder cases? It's not totally beyond belief to imagine that he wasn't up front with his parents or his lawyers in the first few days. I've never contracted a defense attorney, I don't know if the attorney would have told his parents the details since they were the ones who hired him or if this guy was freaked out enough that he didn't tell the lawyers right away and just had a story about getting into a physical altercation with her and her leaving. He died of suicide pretty soon after the time frame in question, he wasn't in a calm rational state.
Defense Attorneys defend you in any criminal proceedings. You may be thinking of Public Defenders, which are Defense Attorneys paid by the state.
If he wasn't up front they would have no reason to hire a local firm at the location the murder occured.
It was a cross country road trip. Any other jurisdiction along the route could've been relevant without all the facts.
Wouldn't assault that didn't involve murder need to have a firm local to the incident?
An assault where the victim disappeared and is not heard from again?
Civil Court only has a "more likely than not" burden of proof. This is a pretty good piece of circumstantial evidence. If you can string 2-3 things like this together, it's a strong case.
You’d have to prove they knew she was dead based on the word gone.
I mean, if his parents' response is anything but "gone where?" then it's already proven they know he was talking about killing her.
Gone fishing? Gone to the mall? Gone and left me now I need you guys to get me a lawyer?
Oh what I would give to be on that jury.
Wasn’t this already well established?
Predicted but confirmed this week.
Not predicted, there were letters that investigators made public that detailed how the parents knew she was dead. They were offering to help him hide the body.
The amended suit does not elaborate on how the Petitos knew about the phone call Laundrie made to his parents about his fiancee being “gone”. But NBC News reported being told by the Petitos’ attorney, Pat Reilly, that the information came from depositions that the Laundries gave in October.
I thought it was already known because of discoveries related to finding his remains, etc, and formed the basis for them suing the parents to begin with, but maybe not.
It was known. It was widely reported that there were letters written between Brian and his parents, with his parents offering to help him hide the body. It was a very well publicized case and it's weird that people forgot this massive detail.
Ok, yeah, that’s what I thought I remembered. Thanks for confirming.
Reminds me of that case where the dad killed his family and realized on air how fucked he was as they announced while interviewing him that they had found the bodies
Which story was that?
I would also like to know.
Stephen McDaniel I believe.
Sounds like a different case. This guy killed a woman, not a whole family. He did find out about police discovering her body on air, though.
I don't know anything about this case but if someone's fiance was missing for like a week or longer and they told me their fiance was "gone" I don't think I'd think anything that suspicious about it unless I was in the future and knew he was the killer.
I actually feel the opposite if they didn’t elaborate at all, unless they really sold it with grief and mania or I previously knew them to be going through a rough patch. Someone’s fiancée leaving is generally a pretty traumatic experience, even if I didn’t think they did it I’d be super concerned about their mental state if they just shrugged it off
Yeah we know. This was a key detail of the entire investigation when the investigation was occurring and the news reported on it.
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